Malise Eigth Earl of StrathearnEarl of Orkney andCaithness

• Preferred Name: Malise Eigth Earl of StrathearnEarl of Orkney andCaithness^{[1] [2] [3]}
  
• Alternate Name: De Ross
  
• Gender: M
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Earl of Strathearn1344
  
• Declaration+of+Arbroath: 6 APR 1320 in Arbroath Abbey, Arbroath, Scotland at LATI: N6.5599 LONG: E2.5916 with note: Description: Malise was a signatorie of the Declaration of Arbroath, asserting that the Kingdom of Scotland was a independent kingdom and denouncing English attempts to subjugate it.
  
• Siege+of+Perth+Castle: 1312 in Perthshire, Scotland at LATI: N6.5 LONG: E4 with note: Description: At the siege of Perth Castle Malise fought with Robert the Bruce on the side of Scotland, while his father fought for the English defenders.
  
• Birth: 1290 in Perthshire, Scotland, United Kingdom at LATI: N6.5 LONG: E4
  
• Occupation: Sheriff of Clydesdale
  
• Death: 17 OCT 1346 in Neville's Cross, Durham, England, United Kingdom at LATI: N4.7833 LONG: E1.5667
  
• Burial: in Dunblane at LATI: N1.2 LONG: E106.8667 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• FSID: LKRL-N5M
  
• MilitaryService: Killed in battle at Neville's Cross.
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Jarl of Orkney and CaithnessBET 1330 AND 1350
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  http://www.thepeerage.com/p10790.htm#i107899
  Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors Malise, 8th Earl Strathearn, Orkney, Caithness Last Edited 4 Apr 2020 M, #3858,
  b. circa 1300, d. between 1344 and 1350
  Father Malise, 7th Earl of Strathearn b. 1275, d. b 1329
  Mother Agnes of Orkney
  Charts Pedigree of James Irvine
  Malise, 8th Earl Strathearn, Orkney, Caithness Son of his father's 1st wife. He was born circa 1300. He married Mary of Strathearn before 1320.2 Malise, 8th Earl Strathearn, Orkney, Caithness married Marjorie Ross, daughter of Sir Hugh Ross, 4th Earl of Ross and Maud de Brus, before 1334.3 Malise, 8th Earl Strathearn, Orkney, Caithness died between 1344 and 1350.
  Family 1 Mary of Strathearn d. b 1334
  Child Matilda (Maud) of Strathearn+2
  Family 2 Marjorie Ross
  Child Isobella of Strathearn+
  
  Wikipedia -Malise V was the 8th Earl of Strathearn-
  Malise V, Earl of Strathearn and Caithness, Jarl of Orkney (Scottish Gaelic: Maol Íosa; died c. 1357) was the last of the native Gaelic earls of Strathearn.
  Biography
  He succeeded to the Earldom of Strathearn in 1329, on the death of his father Malise IV, Earl of Strathearn.
  After the death of Magnus, Earl of Orkney, he inherited the Norwegian Jarldom of Orkney (including Caithness) in right of his great-great-grandfather Earl Gilbert. Despite the similarity of title, and related etymology, a Norwegian jarl is not the same as a Scottish earl;[1] the position of jarl of Orkney was the most senior rank in mediaeval Norway except for the king himself.
  In 1330, King Edward III of England wrote to King David II of Scotland and his councillors, including Malise, requesting that certain forfeited noblemen have their lands restored. This request was evaded, if not outright refused, and consequently Edward allowed Edward Balliol to march into Scotland with the dispossessed knights. Malise took an active part in opposing the invaders, commanding the third division of the Scots army at the Battle of Halidon Hill, and was referred to as a "notorious rebel" by Edward III. He had his earldom forfeited by Balliol, who bestowed it on John de Warenne, Earl of Surrey. Malise made strenuous efforts to recover Strathearn, but without success, and he went to dwell on his estates in Caithness.
  By 1340 the influence of Balliol and Edward III had waned, but Malise still did not get back his earldom. During King David's absence in France, he was arraigned before the High Steward and accused of felony and treason, in that he had supposedly resigned the earldom of his own free will by reason of a contract between him and the Earl of Surrey. The jury acquitted him, but the earldom remained in David's hands, who in 1344 bestowed it on Malise's nephew Maurice de Moravia.
  In 1344 he was summoned before King and Parliament on the same charge. He did not attend in person, but was represented by his brother-in-law William III, Earl of Ross, along with the Bishop of Ross and a lawyer named William Meldrum. He pleaded that he had already been found innocent; this was partly acknowledged by Parliament, though they judged that the earldom should continue to be held by the King.
  After this, Earl Malise passes from history; his date of death is not known.
  Marriage and children
  His second wife was Marjory, daughter of Hugh, Earl of Ross, whom he probably married between 1325 and 1328. By her he had four daughters:
  Matilda, married Wayland de l'Ard.
  Her son Alexander de l'Ard, was made Captain of Orkney in 1375, by the Norwegian king. This was a probationary position, and if passed, Alexander would have been made Jarl the following year; however, he was uninterested in the role, and was soon sacked. Alexander sold his lands in Caithness to Robert II of Scotland; he is sometimes referred to as Earl of Caithness as a result.
  Isabella/Isabel, married Sir William Sinclair, 8th of Roslin. Their only son Henry was made Jarl of Orkney in 1379
  Agneta, married Erengisle Suneson, who was briefly Jarl of Orkney
  An unknown daughter, who married Guttorm Sperra
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === MAURICE MORAY of Drumsargard, co. Lanark ===
  MAURICE MORAY of Drumsargard, co. Lanark, said to be son of Sir John MORAY of the same, possibly by Mary, daughter of Malise, 7th EARL OF STRATHEARN [SCT], but more probably by an earlier wife,(i) was one of the Scottish leaders who in August 1335 rejected the terms of peace then offered and continued in resistance to Edward III. His lands in Ballencrieff were in the King's hands through his forfeiture, 1335-37; and his forfeited barony of Drumsargard, &c., was granted by Balliol to Sir Anthony de Lucy, 2 December 1336, Maurice being then an enemy and a rebel. He was Sheriff of Clydesdale and took part in the siege and capture of Perth in 1339; was present in Parliament [SCT], 17 and 22 September 1341; Keeper of Stirling Castle, on its surrender by the English, April 1342. He was created, 9 February 1343/4, EARL OF STRATHEARN [SCT], and appears as Earl on the Roll of that Parliament [SCT], June 1344, in which the resignation of Earl Malise (in 1332) was confirmed. He married (dispensation 11 July 1339) Joan, widow of John (CAMPBELL), EARL OF ATHOLL [SCT] (killed at Halidon Hill, 19 July 1333), and before that of Malise, 7th EARL OF STRATHEARN [SCT] (died before 1329), daughter of Sir John MENTEITH of Rusky. He died s.p.m., being slain at the battle of Neville's Cross, 17 October 1346, when the Earldom became extinct. His widow married, as his 2nd wife (post nuptial dispensation 9 November 1347), William (SUTHERLAND), 5th EARL OF SUTHERLAND [SCT], who died about 1370. She was living, 20 March 1366/7, but the date of her death is not known. [Complete Peeragte XII/1:387-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
  
  [i] His parentage is not known with certainty. If Mary of Strathearn married his presumed father, Sir John Moray, about 1319-22, as is thought, when she and her husband had charter of the lands of Abercairney from her father, the 7th Earl, confirmed by her brother, the 8th Earl, about 1330, she can hardly have been the mother of grown men in 1335. When Maurice Moray had dispensation for his marriage with Joan, Countess of Strathearn and widow of the 7th Earl, 11 July 1339, no mention is made of this Earl, who, if Mary was Maurice's mother, would have been his grandfather.
  
  === !#21-v4pt1-p383,-v4pt2-p433,-v12pt1-p387 ===
  !#21-v4pt1-p383,-v4pt2-p433,-v12pt1-p387-389*,544; !ASSUMPTION: unsure of parentage, have placed as son of John MORAY (MURRAY) possibly by Mary, but probably by an earlier wife; ABEYANCE: #12-v12pt1p387fn(i) states> parentage uncertain; `title> Earl of Strathearn;
  
  === `title> Earl of Strathearn; ===
  `title> Earl of Strathearn;

• m. 1320

1. Isabella de Strathearn - Countess of Caithness, b. in Perthshire, Scotland     d. 13 APR 1391 in Roslin, Midlothian, Scotland

1. Title: MALISE son of MALISE Earl of Strathearn - Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
   Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#MaliseStrathearndied13441357;
   Note: MALISE (-killed in battle Neville’s Cross 17 Oct 1346). He succeeded his father as Earl of Strathearn. He succeeded his cousin Magnus as Earl of Caithness and Orkney in [1323/29]. He resigned the earldom of Strathearn [24 Sep/16 Dec] 1332 into the hands of Edward Balliol, was tried for treason in 1344 for so doing, but found innocent[802]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records that "Johannes Ranulphi comes Moraviæ ac etiam comes de Strathern constabularius Scotiæ…David filius et heres David de Lindsay…Willelmus Fraser…" were killed at Durham 17 Oct 1346[803]. [804]m firstly MARY, daughter of ---. m secondly ([1325/28]) MATILDA [Marjory] of Ross, daughter of HUGH Earl of Ross & his first wife Matilda Bruce (-after 1350). Earl Malise & his first wife had four children: (a) MATILDA . m --- de la Arde, son of ---. (b) EUPHEME . (c) AGNES (-before 1360). m ERNGILS, son of ---. He was granted the title Earl of Orkney by the king of Norway in right of his wife but forfeited it in 1375[805]. (d) ISABEL . m WILLIAM St Clair, son of ---. Lord St Clair. ii) MARY . "Malisius comes Strathern" granted "terram de Abbercarny…que fuit Roberti filii Magni dicti de Strathern" to "Johanni de Moravia de Dromsygart…[et] heredibus suis de Maria filia nostra" by undated charter[806]. [807]m ([1319/22]) as his second wife, JOHN Moray of Drumsagard, co. Lanark, son of ---.
   
2. Title: Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
   Author: Citations [S433] Unknown author, Wallop Family, p. 278. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 570. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 530-531. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 527. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 606. [S11568] The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. XII/1, p. 387. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 602-603.
   Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p126.htm#i3778;
   Note: Sir Maurice Moray, Earl of Strathearn, Sheriff of Clydesdale1,2,3,4,5 Last Edited 4 Apr 2020 M, #3778, b. circa 1323, d. 17 October 1346 Father Sir John Moray, 2nd Laird of Drumsagard, 1st Laird of Abercairny d. 1356 Charts Pedigree of James Irvine Sir Maurice Moray, Earl of Strathearn, Sheriff of Clydesdale was born circa 1323 at of Drumsargard, Lanarkshire, Scotland.6 He and Joanna de Menteith obtained a marriage license on 10 July 1339; Date of Papal Dispensation, being that John Campbell & Maurice Moray were related. They had 1 daughter (Joan, wife of Sir Thomas de Moray of Bothwell).3,4,5,7 Sir Maurice Moray, Earl of Strathearn, Sheriff of Clydesdale died on 17 October 1346 at Battle of Neville's Cross, Durham, Durham, England.3,4,5 Family Joanna de Menteith d. a 20 Mar 1367 Child Joanna Moray+2 d. b Aug 1409
   
3. Title: Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
   Author: Citations [S390] Unknown author, Wallop Family, p. 669. [S11568] The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. II, p. 476, notes. [S11568] The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. II, p. 476.
   Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p129.htm#i3858;
   Note: Malise, 8th Earl Strathearn, Orkney, Caithness1 Last Edited 4 Apr 2020 M, #3858, b. circa 1300, d. between 1344 and 1350 Father Malise, 7th Earl of Strathearn b. 1275, d. b 1329 Mother Agnes of Orkney Charts Pedigree of James Irvine Malise, 8th Earl Strathearn, Orkney, Caithness Son of his father's 1st wife. He was born circa 1300. He married Mary of Strathearn before 1320.2 Malise, 8th Earl Strathearn, Orkney, Caithness married Marjorie Ross, daughter of Sir Hugh Ross, 4th Earl of Ross and Maud de Brus, before 1334.3 Malise, 8th Earl Strathearn, Orkney, Caithness died between 1344 and 1350. Family 1 Mary of Strathearn d. b 1334 Child Matilda (Maud) of Strathearn+2 Family 2 Marjorie Ross Child Isobella of Strathearn+