Joan Cornwall

• Preferred Name: Joan Cornwall^{[1] [2] [3] [4]}
  
• Alternate Name: Howard
  
• Gender: F
  
• LdsBaptism: 7 JAN 1929 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• Birth: ABT 1285 in Thonock, Lincolnshire, England at LATI: N3.4232 LONG: E0.7564 with note: Standardized Place
  
• Death: ABT 1341 in East Winch, Norfolk, England at LATI: N2.7168 LONG: E0.5101
  
• Burial: AFT 25 SEP 1342 in East Winch, Norfolk, England at LATI: N2.7168 LONG: E0.5101 with note: Standardized. The United Kingdom didn't exist before 1801. All Saints Churchyard
  
• Affiliation: with note: Description: House of Plantagenet
  
• FSID: MXXT-JYR
  
• Royal House: with note: Description: Plantagenet
  
• LdsEndowment: 7 FEB 1930 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  
  Lady Joan Howard (de Cornwall)
  Birthdate: circa 1286 (56)
  Birthplace: Thunnock, Lancashire, England
  Death: circa September 25, 1342 (48-64)
  Howard Chapel, East Winch, Norfolk, England
  Place of Burial: Howard Chapel, East Winch, Norfolk, England
  Immediate Family:
  Daughter of Richard de Cornwall, of Thunnock and Joan St. Owen
  Wife of Sir John Howard, Sheriff of Norfolk
  Mother of Sir John Howard, II, Admiral of the Navy
  Sister of Richard de Cornwall; Edmund de Cornwall; Geoffrey de Cornwall and William De Cornwall
  Occupation: sister and heir of Richard de Cornwall
  Managed by: James Fred Patin, Jr.
  Last Updated: June 2, 2018
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  Immediate Family
  
  Sir John Howard, Sheriff of Norfolk
  husband
  
  Sir John Howard, II, Admiral of ...
  son
  
  Joan St. Owen
  mother
  
  Richard de Cornwall, of Thunnock
  father
  
  Richard de Cornwall
  brother
  
  Edmund de Cornwall
  brother
  
  Geoffrey de Cornwall
  brother
  
  William De Cornwall
  brother
  About Joan de Cornwall
  Joan de Cornwall1,2,3,4,5,6
  F, #15950, b. circa 1285, d. after 25 September 1342
  Father Sir Richard Cornwall, Steward of Knaresborough7,8,4,9,6 b. c 1255, d. 1296
  Mother Joan FitzAlan7,8,4,9,6 b. c 1267, d. a 10 Oct 1321
  Joan de Cornwall Sister of Richard de Cornwall. She was born circa 1285 at of Thunnock, England. She married Sir Thomas Peche circa 1306 at of Thunnock, Lancashire, England; This marriage is unknown to Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 233. A settlement for the marriage Joan de Cornwall and Sir John Howard, Sheriff of Norfolk & Suffolk, Governor of Norwich Castle was made in 1309; They had 1 son (Sir John).2,3,5,6 Joan de Cornwall married John Avenel after 1331; This marriage is unknown to Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 233. Joan de Cornwall died after 25 September 1342.2,6
  Family Sir John Howard, Sheriff of Norfolk & Suffolk, Governor of Norwich Castle d. c 23 Jul 1331
  Child
  Sir John Howard, Sheriff & Escheator of Norfolk & Suffolk, Admiral of the North Fleet+4,6 d. bt 15 Nov 1356 - 29 Apr 1364
  Citations
  1.[S4460] Unknown author, The Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants, by Gary Boyd Roberts, p. 317; Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 1857; OFHS Newsletter, December 1995, p. 97; Wallop Family, p. 446.
  2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 233.
  3.[S6] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 576.
  4.[S6] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 265.
  5.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 308.
  6.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 328.
  7.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 232-233.
  8.[S6] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 574-575.
  9.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 306-307.
  From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p531.htm#i15950
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  Joan De CORNWALL
  Died: AFT 1348
  Father: Richard of Cornwall (Sir)
  Mother: Joan ?
  Married 1: Thomas PECHE (Sir)
  Married 2: John HOWARD (Sir Sheriff of Norfolk) 1307/8
  Children:
  1. John HOWARD (Sir Admiral of Navy)
  Married 3: John AVENELL
  From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/PLANTAGENET.htm#Joan De CORNWALL1
  
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  notes
  From House of Cornewall (Google eBook) Cecil George Savile Foljambe Earl of Liverpool, Compton Reade Jakeman and Carver, 1908 - 316 pages. Page 28:
  
  From the Cotton MSS., Julius C. VII., it appears that there was a Joan De Cornewall, wife of Sir John Howard. and ancestress of the Dukes of Norfolk, e.g., “ Richardus de Cornubia to William Rudham, his attorney in Norfolk—Know ye that I have granted to Sir John Howard and Joan his wife, my sister, that they may inhabit and dwell in the Manors, which I have of the gift of the said John in the County of Norfolk, so long as it please theni."——Undated.
  
  Again. Folios 236-7. “ The arms of Howard and Cornewall are in Ferfield, Tendering Hall. in the Parish of Stoke Newland, and in the Chapel of Stoke Newland," 11a. Nayland.
  
  This Joan could not have been the sister of Sir Richard. inasmuch as he died in 1297; neither could she have been identical with Joan. daughter of Sir Geoffrey de Cornewall. since in the “ Howard Memorials” of Mr. Howard. of Corby Castle, it is stated that Sir William Howard was married 2 Edward II., 1308-9, i.e.. before the birth of the said Joan. Mr. Howard speaks of the above Joan as eventual heir of her brother. Richard. Mr. Horace Round afiirrns that the only Richard De Cornewall of that date. is. 1308. was a priest described as King's kinsman and Clerk of the Market, to whom Edward II. gave a prebendal stall in York Cathedral.
  
  From page 157:
  
  In the Visitation of Huntingdonshire, 1613, Harl. Soc., are seals bearing a close resemblance to the third coat in Asthall Church, viz., of Sir Richard De Cornewall, 21 Edw., III. and of William Cornewall, his son, Richard II. These coats are argent, on a fesse sable 3 bezants or; and this Sir Richard, Captain of Calais, may have been a younger brother of Sir Geoffrey and Sir Edmund, while all three may have had a sister Joan, wife of Sir J. Howard.
  
  comments
  From Richard de Cornwall circa 1255 - 1296
  
  A number of claims have been made for other children of Richard, but with only assertion and/or speculation to back them up. The most commonly asserted one (or two!) is of a daughter Joan, and this is based upon her being the sister of a Richard de Cornwall, rector of Walsoken (as per the IPM of her husband Sir John Howard, which names her as this Richard's sister). Hence the claim for both of these depend solely on Richard the rector being son of this Richard. Whilst this is feasible, and indeed it would seem likely that this Richard, whose father shared his name, should also name a son Richard, I have been unable to find any evidence to connect the two. Richard the rector, was first mentioned in the Patent Rolls of 1292 as being the king's clerk. Assuming him to be "of age" at the time, he would have to have been born no later than 1271, and hence the eldest son. Considering that he was still alive at the time of Edmund, earl of Cornwall's, IPM in 1300 (indeed he appears to have lived until at least 1331), it seems telling that he is not mentioned therein, along with his purported brothers, as holding land which the earl gave to their father. It seems to me that he is more likely to have been the son of this Richard's brother, Walter, and is not mentioned the said IPM, because Walter was still ali
  
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  === THE COMPLETE ENGLISH PEERAGE (GS NUMBER ===
  THE COMPLETE ENGLISH PEERAGE (GS NUMBER ESQ942 D22JA) PART 1 P.70, 71; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY; YORKSHIRE PUBLICATION 20, P.1, HOWARD PEDIGREE; YORKSHIRE PUBLICASTION L2D VOL 2 P.144-145; N.C ANCESTORS BY COLLINS P.140; ENGLAND PUBLICATION Z (4 ED) VOL 1 P.50-51; BURKE'S PEERAGE (102ED) PART 1 P.540, 1675;

• m. 1309 in Burford, Shropshire, England

1. John Howard, b. 1310 in Norfolk, England     d. 1388 in East Winch, Norfolk, England

1. Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
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2. Title: UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
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3. Title: Joan Cornwall, "Find A Grave Index"
   Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVLW-M9RD : 6 March 2021), Joan Cornwall Howard, ; Burial, East Winch, Kings Lynn and West Norfolk Borough, Norfolk, England, All Saints Churchyard; citing record ID 93173944, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
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4. Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current
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