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Elizabeth Comyn
- Preferred Name: Elizabeth Comyn[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
- Gender: F
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Countess of Mar
- FSID: LYKS-YY7
- Birth: ABT 1223 in Altyre, Moray, Scotland at LATI: N7.5667 LONG: E3.6
- Death: 1267 in Kildrummy Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland at LATI: N7.2333 LONG: E2.8667 with note: All vital information and relationships match. ID numbers: G82P-VY3 and LYKS-YY7.
- Burial: 1267 in Aberdeenshire, Scotland
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Elizabeth, also called Isabel, was the daughter of Sir William Comyn and Marjory Colham, and the first wife of William (Uilleam) Mormaer of Mar. She died in 1267
Elizabeth COMYN
Born: Abt 1223, Buchan, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Died: 1267, Kildrummy Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Marriage Information:
Elizabeth married Sir William DE MAR 5th Earl of Mar, son of Duncan DE MAR 4th Earl of Mar and Unknown. (Sir William DE MAR 5th Earl of Mar was born in 1222 in Mar, Aberdeenshire, Scotland and died before 25 Jul 1281 in Kildrummy Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland 5001.)
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Elizabeth Comyn was the daughter of William Comyn, Earl of Buchan and Margaret, Countess of Buchan.1 She died in 1267.2
She married William, 5th Earl of Mar, son of Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar.2
Child of Elizabeth Comyn and William, 5th Earl of Mar
Donald, 6th Earl of Mar+2,1 d. a 25 Jul 1297
http://thepeerage.com/p460.htm#i4592
[S37] BP2003 volume 2, page 2603. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
[S323] Sir James Balfour Paul, The Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's The Peerage of Scotland (Edinburgh, Scotland: David Douglas, 1904), volume V, page 576. Hereinafter cited as The Scots Peerage.
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BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#ElizabethComyndied1267MWilliamMar as of 12/9/2018
ELIZABETH Comyn (-[1265/66]). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continu
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AFN: Additional information received from the book "Robert the Bruce's Rivals: The Comyns 1212-1314".
=== Source: A. Roots. ===
Source: A. Roots.
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=== family group notes ===
By his [William’s] marriage with the Countess of Buchan
he had issue:
1. Alexander, who succeeded his mother in the earldom.
2. Sir William.
3. Fergus, mentioned in the foundation charter of the Hospital of Turriff …
4. Idonea, married (before her father’s death) to Sir Gilbert Hay …
5. Elizabeth, married to William, Earl of Mar. She died in 1267.
6. Agnes, who is said to have been married to Philip Meldrum of that Ilk. She and her husband had a dispute with the monks of Arbroath in 1263.
Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol II, Edinburgh, 1906, p. 252-4.
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This Earl of Mar married, first, a daughter of William Comyn, Earl of Buchan. Her name is said to be Elizabeth, and she died in 1267.
By his first wife the Earl had
Donald, who became Earl of Mar.
Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol V, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 574-7
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Notes for William (Spouse 1)
V. William, Earl of Mar, who succeeded his father [Duncan, Earl of Mar] in the earldom sometime before 7 February 1243-44, when he witnesses a royal charter as Earl of Mar. The first notice of him on record is in the agreement of 1242, between his father and the monks of St. Andrews, where he appears as a witness. He was one of the sureties of the treaty of Newcastle in September 1244.
After the death of King Alexander II he took a prominent part in the policy of the new reign. He became Great Chamberlain of Scotland in 1252 and continued such till September 1255, when he and his colleagues were displaced by others proposed by King Henry III, the young king’s father-in-law, of whom Alan Doorward (the son of Thomas ) was one.
It was about this time that Alan Doorward made another attempt to obtain the earldom of Mar. ... on 4 october 1257, {Pope Alexander IV] issued … letter, apparently genuine this time, detailing the whole case, the statement made by Durward impunging Earl william’s right, his craving the letters to the Bishop of Brechin who referred the question to the apostolic See, before which court Earl william’s procurator produced the Papal letters delaring the falsity of the first letters if they agreed with the transcript. The Papal commissioner having heard all the arguments on both sides … The Pope confirmed his commissioner’s judgment, and directed the Bishop of Aberdeen to examine witnesses as to the the birth of Earl Morgund, after which no more is on record regarding the case.
Whatever further proceedings were taken, Earl William remained in possession, which supports the suggestion that the alleged illegitimacy was perhaps only a product of ‘the difference between the Celtic usage and the Canon law which was superseding it, but apparently to prevent any prejudice to others, the Earl, on 23 January 1267-68, while confirming to the canons of St. Andrews certain grants by his grandather, Morgund, and grandmother, Agnes, added a clause that if any grant had been unlawfully made or confirmed by these persons, he and his heirs would supply what can be supplied so far as possible.
The Earl of Mar was restored to a place in the government in 1257, and took a prominent part in public affairs. He again, about 1262, became Grand Chamberlain, and held office till 1267.
In that or the following year, a great dispute arose between him and the bishop of Moray because of many injuries done to the church of Moray by the Earl, and the latter was excommunicated by the Papal legate ...
In 1264 he was one of two commanders sent to compel the Islesmen to submit to King Alexander’s rule, and in 1270 he was one of an embassy to England to negotiate for the earldom of Huntingdon.
He died before 25 July 1281,
when his son Donald was Earl, but probably not long before, as he seems to have contributed to the army in Wales.
This Earl of Mar married, first, a daughter of William Comyn, Earl of Buchan. Her name is said to be Elizabeth, and she died in 1267.
By his first wife the Earl had
Donald, who became Earl of Mar.
He married, secondly, Muriel daughter of Malise, Earl of Strathearn, granddaughter and coheiress of Robert de Muscamp, who survived him, and died, between 16 May and 12 November 1291, without issue, as her sister, Mary, wife of Nicholas Graham, was her heir.
Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol V, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 574-7
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Preferred Parents:
Father: William Comyn Lord of Badenoch, b. 1163 in Buchan, Aberdeenshire, Scotland d. 1233 in Buchan, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Mother: Margaret Buchan Countess of Buchan, b. 1167 in Buchan, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, United Kingdom d. 1244 in Buchan, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Family 1: Gilronan MacGilronan, b. ABT 1223 in Erskine, Renfrewshire, Scotland d. ABT 1300 in Erskine, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Family 2: William De Mar 5th Earl, b. 1222 in Aberdeen, Aberdeen City, Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom d. 25 JUL 1281 in Kildrummy Castle, Kildrummy, Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom
- m. ABT 1242 in Kildrummy, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
- m. 1242 in Kildrummy, Cionn Droma, Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom
- Margaret MacGilronan, b. 1248 in Kildrummy Castle, Kildrummy, Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom d. 1337 in Erskine, Renfrew district, Renfrew, Scotland, United Kingdom
- Domhnall de Mar - 6th Earl of Mar I, b. MAR 1243 in Kildrummy Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland d. 25 JUL 1297 in Castle Kildrummy, Kildrummy, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Sources:
- Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/collections/9289/records/17086459;
- Title: Wikipedia: Uilleam, Earl of Mar
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uilleam,_Earl_of_Mar;
- Title: Cracroft's Peerage: The Complete Guide to the British Peerage & Baronetage
Author: Cracroft-Brennan, Patrick, ed, The Peerage: Mar, Earl of (S, 1114)
Publication: Name: http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/mar1114.htm;
Note: Cracrofts Peerage Limited, c/o Bambury & Co Chartered Accountants, Bicester Innovation Centre, Telford Road, Bicester, Oxfordshire OX26 4LD. Tel: 01869 222830; E-mail: info@cracroftspeerage.co.uk
- Title: SULPICE . The Chronicle of Saint-Maxence
Page: British Isles - Scotland, Mormaers, Earls & Lords, p. 72: WILLIAM (-before 25 Jul 1281, maybe before Jan 1279). "…Willelmo filio Duncani comitis de Mar…" subscribed the undated charter, dated to [1223/40], under which "Fergusius filius Gilberti quondam comitis de Stathern" donated "terram…de Beny" to Lindores Abbey[456]. He succeeded his father in [1243] as Earl of Mar, first recorded as such as witness of a royal charter dated 7 Feb 1244. However, he cites no contemporary primary source which confirms that this supposition is correct. Alan Durward claimed the earldom of Mar in 1257, impugning the legitimacy of his predecessors, a bull of Pope Alexander IV dated 4 Oct 1257 detailing the whole case[457]. "Willelmus comes de Mar" confirmed the donations of "ecclesiam de Taruelond…de Migueth" made by "dñs Morgrundus avus noster…dña Agnes avia nostra quondam comitissa de Mar" to St Andrew’s priory by charter dated 23 Jan 1267 witnessed by "…Douenaldo Duncano filiis eiusdem comitis…"[458]. He was appointed Chamberlain of Alexander III King of Scotland in [1252] and from 1262 to 1264[459]. A memoranda dated "Michaelmas Term" [Oct/Dec] in 1281 records that "the king commands the barons, as William earl of Mar provided his service in the army of Wales for a knight’s fee, to quit him of the scutage"[460]. This document, if correctly dated, suggests that Earl William was still alive at that time. However, his son Donald is recorded as Earl of Mar 25 Jul 1281, which suggests that the previous document should be redated to an earlier year or that "William earl of Mar" in the text was an error for "Donald earl of Mar". Another indication that William Earl of Mar died a few years earlier than 1281 is the document which indicates his widow’s second marriage (see below). m firstly ELIZABETH Comyn, daughter of WILLIAM Comyn Earl of Buchan & his second wife Margaret Ctss of Buchan (-[1265/66]). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death, dated to [1265/66] from the context, of "comitissa de Mar, soror comitis de Buchania"[461]. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified.
- Title: Elizabeth Comyn on WikiTree
Author: WikiTree contributors, "Elizabeth Comyn", WikiTree, http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Comyn-26 (accessed 27 May 2021)
Publication: Name: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Comyn-26;
- Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy: ÆLFTHRYTH
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20AngloSaxon%20&%20Danish%20Kings.htm#AelfthrythdauOffaMAethelberhtEastAnglia;
Note: ÆLFTHRYTH . The De sancto Ethelberto rege et martiro records that "Orientalium Anglorum rex Ethelbertus" refused to marry "Egeonis filiam…Seledridam" but wanted to marry "Offam regem Merciorum…filiam eius…Alftrida." Ingulph's Chronicle of the Abbey of Croyland records that "Siward the lord abbot of Croyland" lived for four months in the cell of "the most holy virgin Etheldritha (she was the daughter of Offa, the former king of the Mercians, and wife of the holy martyr Ethelbert, the former king of East Anglia)" while Mercia was overrun by Ecgberht King of Wessex. If this marriage is correct, it was presumably arranged by Ælfthryth's father shortly after Æthelberht's accession in an attempt to form an alliance or subjugate East Anglia. Ælfthryth lived as a recluse at Croyland abbey. m ([790/93], not consummated) ÆTHELBERHT King of East Anglia, son of [ÆTHELRED King of East Anglia & his wife Leoveromia ---] (-beheaded [Sutton Walls, near Hereford] 794, bur Hereford Cathedral).
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