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Thomas de Ingoldisthorpe II
- Preferred Name: Thomas de Ingoldisthorpe II[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
- Alternate Name: Thomas de Ingledesthorpe II
- Alternate Name: Thomas Ingledesthorpe II
- Gender: M
- Occupation: Constable of Castle Rising1235 with note: Descendants of Robert de Ingoldisthorpe et Snettisham
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: Sir Knight
- Occupation: Sheriff of Norfolk1249
- FSID: LRFP-S6T
- Death: 1251 in Raynham Hall, West Raynham, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom at LATI: N2.7885 LONG: E0.7534
- Occupation: Sheriff of Suffolk1249
- Fact: 1235 with note: Description: A fine was levied between Thomas de Ingoldisthorpe II and Hermerus de Bekeswell, of one carucate of land in Marham, Norfolk, conveyed to Hermerus, by which it appears that he married Sibilla, relict of Peter de Bekeswell, brother to Hermerus, she being called therein, "late wife of the said Thomas de Ingaldesthorp."
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: Lord of Raynham
- Birth: 1217 in West Raynham, Norfolk, England at LATI: N2.7833 LONG: E0.7833 with note: Raynham Hall?
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Richard, son of William de Ingaldesthorp, by the advice and consent of Maud his wife, granted by deed sans date, to the priory of Normansbergh, in Reineham, two pieces of marsh land, one lying in Branches furlong, between the marsh of Thomas, son of Richard, son of William, and the marsh of Jeff de Reinham, and the homage, and service of William, son of Ralph de Gateley, for the tenement which he held of him, with the appurtenances, with one capon per ann. Witnesses, Alan son of John, Jeff. de Reinham, Bartholomew, son of William, John Poor, &c. (fn. 3) It is probable this Richard might marry one of the daughters and coheirs of Jeffrey de Lisewis, (fn. 4) or of his son William. William de Lisewise (of whom I shall afterwards treat) was the founder of the priory of Normansbergh, the name of his wife, and that of his son Geffrey's, was Maud; the Lisewises, father and son, appear to have held this manor, with that of Gateley, Islington, Clenchwarton, &c. under Hugh de Montfort, the moieties of all which came about this time to the Ingaldesthorps, and the Scales, who (as I conclude) might marry another sister and coheir. Richard grants this at the request of Maud his wife, who might have an affection for the abovementioned priory, as founded by her relations; and Richard, probably, dying without issue, left it to Thomas de Ingaldesthorp, Knt. (son of Sir Thomas) who by deed sans date, gave 27 acres of land, in Sharnburne, to the priory of Windham, as appears from the register of that house: and in the 12th of Henry III. a fine was levied between Thomas, son of Thomas de Ingaldesthorp, and Robert de Scales, querents, and Robert, prior of Acra, (whom Simon prior of Normansbergh, called to warrant,) of the advowson of the churches of Great and South Reinham, lsyngton, and a mediety of Wigenhale St. Peter's, before Hugh, abbot of St. Edmund's, Martin de Pateshall, archdeacon of Norfolk, Stephen de Segrave, &c. the King's justices, when the said Thomas and Robert gave to the priory of Normansbergh, in pure alms, 40s. rent per ann. out of the mill of South Reinham, with a clause, that if the mill shall fail, then to pay it out of other lands. About the same time Thomas de Ingaldesthorp, and Robert de Scales, held lands and tenements in Reinham, PuddingNorton, Helgeton, Ilsyngton, and Gately, in Norfolk, by the service of two knight's fees, and they held the same in the year 1233, when an aid was granted to the King, on the marriage of his sister Isabel, to the Emperor Frederick.
=== (1217) ===
(1217)
=== Sibilla/de Bekeswell ===
Sibilla/de Bekeswell
Preferred Parents:
Father: Thomas de Ingoldisthorpe I, b. ABT 1170 in Ingoldisthorpe, Norfolk, England d. 1228 in Raynham Hall, West Raynham, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom
Mother: Joan de Beauffou, b. 1171 in King's Lynn, Norfolk, England d. BEF 7 MAY 1243 in Castle Rising, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom
Family 1: Isabella FitzHamon of Bosmere , b. 1200 in Bosmere, Suffolk, England, United Kingdom d. 1255 in England, United Kingdom
- m. 1229 in Bosmere, Claydon, Mid Suffolk, Suffolk, England, United Kingdom
- m. AFT 1235
- John Ingoldesthorpe I, b. 1240 in Rainham,Norfolk,England d. 1283 in Rainham,Norfolk,England
Family 2: Sibilla , d. 1219 in Rainham, Norfolk, England
Sources:
- Title: https://fabpedigree.com/s029/f580625.htm
Author: https://fabpedigree.com/s029/f580625.htm
Publication: Name: https://fabpedigree.com/s029/f580625.htm;
- Title: British History Online
Note: sir, Thomas II Ingoldesthorp, Constable of Rising Castle 1231, sheriff of Norfolk & Suffolk, 1216 & 1237
heir & s/o sir, Thomas I Ingoldisthorp & Joan Beaufoe
b- Raynham (Rainham Reinham),Norfolk,England
m - 1 - about 1235 - Sybil
2 - Isabel Hamon (his widow -m- 1255 -Roger Well)
3 - Ela (his widow) ?
d - 1251 - Reinham,Norfolk,England
1226 - heir - Ingoldesthorpe,Norfolk
Snettishjam,Norfolk,England
Raineham,Norfolk,England
bef 1233 - THOMAS s/o Thomas Ingoldesthorpe, was heir of - Richard s/o William Ingoldesthorpe
- Title: Descendants of Robert de Ingoldisthorpe et Snettisham
Author: Google Books
Publication: Name: http://www.davidkfaux.org/files/deIngaldethorpReport.pdf;
Note: Generation 1
1. ROBERT DE INGOLDISTHORPE ET
1
SNETTISHAM . He married DE SHARNEBARNE.
Notes for Robert de Ingoldisthorpe et
Snettisham: Blomefield: RAINEHAM
"Inglethorp's Manor
Takes its name from its lords, who appear from ancient records to be seized of it in the reign of
King John and Henry III. a family of great eminency in the county of Norfolk: the founder, and first
that we meet with of it, is Robert de Ingaldesthorp, as he is called in the pedigree of the
Sharnburns of Sharnburn, in Norfolk, published in Sir Henry Spelman's works, but in the register
of the priory of Windham, is called Robert de Snetesham, who lived in the reign of King Stephen,
and being enfeoffed in a manor at Snetesham, and in one at Ingaldesthorpe, wrote himself
sometimes de Snetesham, and sometimes de Ingaldesthorpe; at this time, it was the custom for
lords of manors to assume their names from the towns they held, according to the Norman
practice, so was it also (as I find by ancient evidences) the usual practice of those who held more
than one lordship, to vary and change their names, as they thought proper, to show their different
fees and tenures, and to pleasure their capital lords, as in the case of this Robert; which has been
cause of confusion in ascertaining ancient pedigrees."
SNETTESHAM
"Ingaldesthorp Manor.
This family was early enfeoffed of this by the Earl of Sussex, the capital lord. Robert de
Ingaldesthorp, called also Robert de Snettesham, was lord of this manor in the reign of
King Stephen.
Of this family a particular account may be seen in Reinham. Thomas de Ingaldesthorp, held in the
27th of Henry III. the fourth part of a fee of the Lady Isabel, dowager of Hugh Earl of Sussex; and
John de Ingaldesthorp had the assise of bread and beer of his tenants, in the 3d of Edward I. and in
the 33d of that King, Thomas de Ingaldesthorp had a charter of free warren here. Beatrix de
Ingaldesthorp and her tenants, held in the 20th of Edward III. here, &c. the 4th part of a fee.
Sir Edmund de Ingaldesthorp was the last heir male of this family, who left at his death, 1456,
Isabel, his only daughter and heir, who brought it by marriage to John Nevill Marquis Montacute,
whose son, George, dying without issue, his estate was divided amongst his 5 sisters and
coheirs; and this came to Isabella, who married Sir William Huddleston of Jauston in
Cambridgeshire; and in the 23d of Henry VIII. was possessed by Sir John Huddleston, whose
son, John, sold it (as I conceive) in 1543, to Sir Roger Townsend, Knt. and was conveyed by
Roger Townsend, Esq. about the 10th of Queen Elizabeth, to Martin Cobb, Esq. whose
descendant, Mr. Edward Cobb, collector of the customs at Wisbeach, was lord in 1750, and his
widow now holds it." http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=78694#s7
Robert de Ingoldisthorpe et Snettisham had the following child:
2. i. ALAN DE INGOLDISTHORPE ET
2
SNETTISHAM. He married UNKNOWN DE
SHARNEBARNE.
Generation 2
2. ALAN DE INGOLDISTHORPE ET
2
SNETTISHAM (Robert de Ingoldisthorpe et1
). He married UNKNOWN
DE SHARNEBARNE.
Notes for Alan de Ingoldisthorpe et
Snettisham: Son and heir.
Generation 2 (con't)
Blomefield: RAINEHAM
"Alan de Ingaldesthorp, or Yggulvesthorp, (as he is wrote,) was the son of Robert, and married-, a
daughter of Jeffrey de Sharnebarne, by Etheldreda his wife, daughter of Robert de Dersingham; (fn.
2) in a grant of the prior of Lewes to him of the lordship of Kenwick, in Tilney, in the reign of Richard I.
he is also called Alan de Snetesham; and Donatus, prior of Windam, granted to this Alan, son of
Robert de Snetesham, 5 acres of the demeans of that priory in Snetesham, and six acres there, which
Cecily de Verlj gave to that house, with one acre, which the said Alan purchased of the fee of Roger
de Paveley; all which Alan was to have for ever, paying 28d. per ann. to the priory, by deed sans date;
and in the reign of Henry II. Richard, son of William Thomas, John and Geffrey de Ingaldesthorp were
witnesses to a deed of Alan de Ingaldesthorp, son of Robert de Snetesham, of lands given by him to
the priory of Castleacre. In 1203, Philip de Mortimer, prior, and the convent of Acre, grants by deed to
Geffrey, son of Alan de Ingaldesthorp, and his heirs, all their land at Otringheith, with the
appertenances, paying 17s. for all services."
Alan de Ingoldisthorpe et Snettisham and Unknown de Sharnebarne had the following children:
3. i. SIR THOMAS
3
DE INGALDESTHORP was born about 1170 in pr. Ingoldisthorpe, Norfolk,
England. He died in 1228 in pr. Raynham, Norfolk, England. He married JOAN DE
BEAUFOU. She was born about 1171 in pr. Flitcham, Norfolk, England. She died before
07 May 1243 in pr. Castle Rising, Norfolk, England.
ii. GEFFREY DE INGALDESTHROP.
Generation 3
3. SIR THOMAS
3
DE INGALDESTHORP (Alan de Ingoldisthorpe et2
Snettisham, Robert de Ingoldisthorpe et1
Snettisham) was born about 1170 in pr. Ingoldisthorpe, Norfolk, England. He died in 1228 in pr.
Raynham, Norfolk, England. He married JOAN DE BEAUFOU. She was born about 1171 in pr.
Flitcham, Norfolk, England. She died before 07 May 1243 in pr. Castle Rising, Norfolk, England.
Notes for Sir Thomas de
Ingaldesthorp: Son and heir.
Coat of Arms: "Gules, a cross engrailed argent, Inglethrop". From a tablet on the wall of the North
Aisle of the Church in Freethrope. 'Church Heraldry of Norfolk', p.234.
http://books.google.ca/books?id=uRoNAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA234&lpg=RA1-PA234&dq=visitatio
ns+of+norfolk+inglethorpe&source=bl&ots=LGu5v-SzH9&sig=2ytKgTOjaQXLQZbSeQ4_oEZWOV
U&hl=en&sa=X&ei=KPggUdu1B4Lw2gXr-YGYBQ&sqi=2&ved=0CFAQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=vi
sitations%20of%20norfolk%20inglethorpe&f=false
"List of Coat Armour used in Norfolk 32
Ingoldisthorpe or Inglethorp. Gu., a saltire engrailed or. (Henry III. Roll). - Thomas, son of John
(temp. Henry III.). In chief a lion, in base-a dragon. (Bardolph, iv., No. 7). A cross raguly.
(Bardolph, vi., Nos. 5 and - 7). - Gu., a cross engrailed or. (Wodehouse Roll). - Gu., a cross
engrailed arg. (Nicolas, p. 48). Gu., a cross engrailed arg. [1521]. (iv., p. 8; ix., p. 179)."
http://www.folsominfo.net/Heraldry/Coats%20of%20Armour%20in%20Norfolk%20before%20Visita
tions.pdf
Also, "150 inglethorpe norf
fess dancetty ch. 3 roundels; saltire engrailed; =; = {ASO, GA} John Inglethorpe, Kt, c1361-1420, MP
1404 Suffolk and 1414 Norfolk, commissioner of Inquests Post Mortem in Norfolk. Note in margin of
T/b for Q2 says "cros ing'les" as the {Gu cross engrailed Ar} of the Norfolk Inglethorpes. As they are
drawn the arms would be Burgh (Foster DH 38; Papworth 795) qtg Hinkley (Burke GA 492; DBA
2:276). Roskell C 3:475-477; Burke GA 527-529; ARS:251*; N:564*; PO:115*; S:304* (cross
engrailed); E:429*; CY:462*; O:178* (label); http://www.armorial.dk/english/Rouen.pdf.
Generation 3 (con't)
The present author (DKF) independently came to the same conclusion about each generation of
this family as found in "The Sorley Pedigrees, p.24" (see Amazon Books, or summary in
http://www.penrose.org/getperson.php?personID=I53818&tree=penrose). Both authors place
Joan de Beaufou as the wife of the same Thomas de Ingaldesthrope (d. 1251). The present
author's only hesitation is on the Sir Thomas de Ingaldesthorpe (abt. 1236 to abt. 1272) who
married Ela generation. After a close examination of all the documentation, it appears that this
individual may be a phantom, combining the father Sir Thomas d. 1251 with the son Thomas d.
1193 who was the bishop of Rochester. This one generation is the one "fuzzy spot" in this
pedigree. At any rate this does not change the primary lineage between the Ingaldesthorpe,
Mundeford and Beaufou families.
Blomefield: RAINEHAM [Raynham]
Inglethorp's Manor
Takes its name from its lords, who appear from ancient records to be seized of it in the reign of
King John and Henry III. a family of great eminency in the county of Norfolk: the founder, and first
that we meet with of it, is Robert de Ingaldesthorp, as he is called in the pedigree of the
Sharnburns of Sharnburn, in Norfolk, published in Sir Henry Spelman's works, but in the register
of the priory of Windham, is called Robert de Snetesham, who lived in the reign of King Stephen
[1135-1141], and being enfeoffed in a manor at Snetesham, and in one at Ingaldesthorpe,
wrote himself sometimes de Snetesham, and sometimes de Ingaldesthorpe; at this time, it
was the custom for lords of manors to assume their names from the towns they held, according
to the Norman practice, so was it also (as I find by ancient evidences) the usual practice of those
who held more than one lordship, to vary and change their names, as they thought proper, to
show their different fees and tenures, and to pleasure their capital lords, as in the case of this
Robert; which has been cause of confusion in ascertaining ancient pedigrees.
Alan de Ingaldesthorp, or Yggulvesthorp, (as he is wrote,) was the son of Robert, and married-,
a daughter of Jeffrey de Sharnebarne, by Etheldreda his wife, daughter of Robert de
Dersingham; (fn. 2) in a grant of the prior of Lewes to him of the lordship of Kenwick, in Tilney, in the
reign of Richard I. he is also called Alan de Snetesham; and Donatus, prior of Windam, granted to this
Alan, son of Robert de Snetesham, 5 acres of the demeans of that priory in Snetesham, and six acres
there, which Cecily de Verlj gave to that house, with one acre, which the said Alan purchased of the
fee of Roger de Paveley; all which Alan was to have for ever, paying 28d. per ann. to the priory, by
deed sans date; and in the reign of Henry II. Richard, son of William Thomas, John and Geffrey de
Ingaldesthorp were witnesses to a deed of Alan de Ingaldesthorp, son of Robert de Snetesham, of
lands given by him to the priory of Castleacre. In 1203, Philip de Mortimer, prior, and the convent of
Acre, grants by deed to Geffrey, son of Alan de Ingaldesthorp, and his heirs, all their land at
Otringheith, with the appertenances, paying 17s. for all services. ....
- Title: Book - History & Antiquities of Norfolk
Author: Google Books
Note: Thomas Ingoldesthorpe, Knt, Sheriff of Norfolk & Suffolk 1272
heir & s/o sir, Thomas Ingoldesthorpe &
b- Rainham,Norfolk,England
m-
d - 1272 -
- Title: Book - Descendants of Robert Ingoldesthorpe & Snettisham
Note: sir Thomas II Ingoldesthorpe, Constable of castle Rising, Sheriff of Norfolk & Suffolk 1226 & 1237
heir & s/o sir Thomas I Ingoldesthorpe & Joan Beaufou
b- Raynham (Rainham Reinham), Norfolk,England
m- 1- about 1235 - Sybil
2 - Isabel Hamon
3 - Ela (his widow)
d - 1251 0 Raynham,Norfolk,England
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