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Geoffrey de Saye
- Preferred Name: Geoffrey de Saye[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
- Alternate Name: Geoffrey de Saye
- Alternate Name: Geoffrey De Saye III
- Gender: M
- FSID: LZD1-8NL
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Geoffrey-de-Saye-MP-1st-Baron-Saye/4331013403640058106?through=6000000003615422387
- Death: 1322 in Birling, Kent, England at LATI: N1.3 LONG: E0.4 with note: Standardized. The United Kingdom didn't exist before 1801.
Elsenham Manor
- Occupation: Knight
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Geoffrey-de-Saye-MP-1st-Baron-Saye/4331013403640058106?through=6000000003828131142
- Birth: 3 MAR 1281 in Birling, Kent, England at LATI: N1.3 LONG: E0.4 with note: Standardized. The United Kingdom didn't exist before 1801.
Elsenham Manor
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: 1st Baron Saye
- Sealing+to+Spouse: with note: Description: Completed
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Lord
- Occupation: Member of Parliment
- Notes:
=== Source: Weis, Sheppard, Beal, The Magna ===
Source: Weis, Sheppard, Beal, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 5th Ed., Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, [1999], 16A-4.
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO.68) P.35, 39, 41;
=== !Complete Peerage !Magna Charta Barons b ===
!Complete Peerage !Magna Charta Barons by Wurts
=== !The Dormant & Extinct Baronage of Engla ===
!The Dormant & Extinct Baronage of England 942 D22 ban Vol 2 pp. 461-3. The Complete Peerage GS 942 D22 cok Vol II Geoffrey Say son of William Say, was age 14 when his father died 1295. In 1306 was in an expedition to Scotland. Was summoned to Parliament in 1315, 1316, 1318, 1319, 1320, 1321. Died in 1322. Left his son Geoffrey age 17 as his heir. Idonea his wife was still living at the time of his death.
=== Sources: ===
Baronagium Genealogies Vol 4 p. 320; Magna Charta Wurts p 126, 247, 446; Collins Peerage Vol 6 p. 27; Burkes Dict of Landed Gentry Vol 2 p 286 S; Magna Charta Barons-Browning p 352, 399; Knights of Edw. 1 (P-S) p 221 [From submission to Archive Records in Salt Lake.]
Preferred Parents:
Father: William de Saye VI, b. 20 NOV 1235 in Greenwich, Kent, England d. 16 DEC 1295 in West Greenwich, Kent, England
Mother: Mary Elizabeth Plantagenet, b. 1255 in Winchester, Hampshire, England d. 1295 in Kent, England
Family 1: Idoine Leybourne, b. 1281 in Preston Manor, Leybourne, Kent, England d. 13 APR 1322 in Leybourne, Kent, England
- m. 28 DEC 1295 in Essex, England
- m. 28 DEC 1295 in Essex, England, UK
- Geoffrey De Saye II, b. ABT 1307 in d. 26 JUN 1359 in Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, England
Sources:
- Title: Geoffrey Say in Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors
Author: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p375.htm#i11247
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p375.htm#i11247;
Note: Sir Geoffrey Say, 1st Lord Say (1,2,3,4,5)
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
M, #11247, b. between 1279 and 1281, d. circa 3 March 1322
Father Sir William de Say (6,7) b. 20 Nov 1253, d. b 16 Sep 1295
Mother Elizabeth (6,7) d. a 1308
Sir Geoffrey Say, 1st Lord Say was born between 1279 and 1281 at of West Greenwich, Birling, Burham, & Cudham, Kent, England; Age 14 or 16 in 1295. Proof of at 15 Feb 1303. (3,5) He and Idonea de Leybourne obtained a marriage license on 28 December 1295; They had 3 sons (Sir Geoffrey, 2nd Lord Say; Roger; & Ralph) and 3 daughters (Katherine, wife of Sir John, 3rd Lord St. John of Lagham; Juliane, wife of Sir Roger, 2nd Lord Norrthwode; & Isabel/Elizabeth, wife of John de Chaumpaign). (3,4,5) Sir Geoffrey Say, 1st Lord Say died circa 3 March 1322 at of Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, England. (3,5)
Family: Idonea de Leybourne d. a 14 Nov 1337
Children: Juliane de Say+ (8,3,4) d. 20 Feb 1329
Katharine de Say (3,5) d. a 29 Sep 1355
Isabel (Elizabeth) de Say (3,5)
Sir Geoffrey de Say, 2nd Baron Say, Admiral of the Fleet, Constable of Rochester Castle+ (2,3,5) b. 30 Apr 1305, d. 26 Jun 1359
Citations:
1. [S2714] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, by F. L. Weis, 4th Ed., p. 17.
2. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 641.
3. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 502-503.
4. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 101.
5. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 565-566.
6. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 500-501.
7. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 564.
8. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 78.
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Geoffrey de Say - birth: 1281; Kent, England
Author: The Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by WalterLee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, Page number: 16a-4
Note: birth: 1281; Kent, England
ABBR The Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
death: before 3 March 1322; Elsenham, Essex, England
ABBR The Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
ABBR The Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3244726613
- Title: Book - Magna Charta Ancestry
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Geoffrey de Say -
Author: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles MosleyEditor-in-Chief, 1999, Page number: 2555
Note: ABBR Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3244726614
- Title: The Arkansas Family Historian Volume 15, No.4, Oct/Nov/Dec 1977
Publication: Name: http://www.agsgenealogy.org/databases/pdffiles/AFH/AFH154Dec1977.pdf;
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