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Roger Tempest III
- Preferred Name: Roger Tempest III[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
- Gender: M
- Burial: in Bracewell, York, England at LATI: N3.9306 LONG: E2.2221
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Sir
- Birth: ABT 1222 in Bracewell, Yorkshire, England
- FSID: LJYJ-DZ9
- Death: BET 12 NOV 1287 AND JUN 1288 in Yorkshire, England with note: between 12 November 1287 (15 Edw I) when he was sworn on a jury and June 1288, when his name on a jury is erased with "obiit" written over it. "However, this latter date is somewhat questionable as the interlineation appears to be a later insert and is followed by an evidently later insert saying that the jury met 3 weeks from Holy Trinity, 18 Edward I (18 June 1290) suggesting an upper limit for Roger's death of that date." See The Early Families.
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
EBT says he was "born say 1226." The first notice of Roger identified by EBT is dated by her before 6 July 1247 when he was witness to a grant of the manor of Elslack (next to Bracewell) by Nicholas Ward to William of York (William of Ebor.), Provost of Beverley (Collect. Topo. et Geneal. Vol 6. p. 132. No T 18). She dates this from the time William of York was appointed Bishop of Salisbury (her citation is the Dictionary of National Biography; the current online edition of DNB says he was elected Bishop of Salisbury 8 December 1246, receiving his temporalities in 1247). If this reference is to Roger III, it would suggest that he was born not later than 1226. However, the next reference to him is 20 years later, so perhaps the reference to Roger is to an earlier Roger Tempest, maybe a brother of Roger III's father, Richard.
At the York assizes in January 1267/68 Roger Tempest was described as chief lord of Waddington ("capital' dni' feodi'") (Assize Ro. 1050 52 H. 3. m 61d, EBT notes) and played a role in actions at that assize (see Appendix 2). In 1272 in an inquest for knights' fees, Roger Tempest of Bracewell held "vj et dim carucates" and "ij bovates," that is, 3 carucates in Stock and Bracewell, 1 carucate in Keighley, 1 carucate in Lacock, 1 carucate in Rilleston, and 7 bovates in Skipton (Yorkshire Deeds, v. 1, v. 39 of YASRS, p. 34). In 1276 Roger Tempest contributed to the crusades (Archbishop Gifford's Register, Surtees Soc v. 109, p. 284, I cannot verify the date from this entry but Gifford was Archbishop of York from 1266-79). In 1278/79 Dominus Roger Tempest was a witness to a charter, leading EBT to believe that he was knighted about that time (Dodsw. 155, f. 166, not seen). In October 1283 the fees assigned to the Queen mother Eleanor in the Skipton fee in lieu of Richmond fees included one knight's fee held by four individuals, including Roger Tempest (Cal. Pat. Ro. Ed. 1, 1281-92. p. 88). Kirkby's Inquest of 1284-85 (Surtees Soc. v. 49) records land held by Roger in Bracewell, Stock, and Waddington (see Appendix 2) while in 1287 an inquest showed Roger holding 6 carucates and 6 bovates of William de Fortibus [Forz], sometime earl of Albermarle [Aumale] (CIPM v. 4 has Addenda to v. 2, number 468 for William De Fortibus begins on p. 349, the reference to Sir Roger Tempest is on p. 352. EBT also references Escheat. Acct Extents No 1. According to DNB, William de Forz died 23 May 1260).
There are many other evidences of Sir Roger between 1266 and 1286 (see Appendix 2). EBT believes he died between 12 November 1287 when he was sworn on a jury (De Banco Ro. 69, Mich. 15-16. Ed. 1. m. 90 [16]) and June 1288 when his name on a panel for a jury (apparently a different jury) had "obiit" written over it (Ibid. m. 45d, this is CP40/69, m. 45d [17]). However, this latter date is somewhat questionable as the interlineation appears to be a later insert and is followed by an evidently later insert saying that the jury met 3 weeks from Holy Trinity, 18 Edward I (18 June 1290) suggesting an upper limit for Roger's death of that date.
Roger's wife was Alice, daughter and coheir of Walter de Waddington. She outlived Roger. EBT quotes a suit by her in October 1290 for her thirds of land in Bracewell, Stock [Stoke], Waddington, Rilleston, Skipton, and Stiveton [Steeton], identifying herself as "Alic' que fuit ux' Rog'i Tempest" (De Banco R. 88, Mich. 18-19 Ed. 1, m. 163d; this is CP40/86, the roll number has been changed from 88 to 86 [18]). Part of the case was renewed in 1298 (Ibid. Roll 127, Mich. 26 Ed. 1, m. 89d [19] and Roll 126, Trinity, 26 E 1, m. 93 [20]). This part was tried 1299 and in 1300 it was decided that she did not have dower rights to land in Steeton since her husband was not seized of that land when he married her nor thereafter (Ibid. Ro. 128, Hil. 27 Ed. 1, m. 90d [21] & Ro. 131, Trin. 27 Ed 1. m. 151 [22]). In 1298, Alice, widow of Sir Roger Tempest claimed jointure from John de Kirkby, but withdrew (De Banco Ro. 126, Trin. 26 Ed. 1, m. 93, referenced above).
-- from The Early Tempests
=== Notes and sources for Roger III... ===
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/families/tempest/early.shtml
Sir Roger Tempest III. EBT says he was "born say 1226." The first notice of Roger identified by EBT is dated by her before 6 July 1247 when he was witness to a grant of the manor of Elslack (next to Bracewell) by Nicholas Ward to William of York (William of Ebor.), Provost of Beverley (Collect. Topo. et Geneal. Vol 6. p. 132. No T 18). She dates this from the time William of York was appointed Bishop of Salisbury (her citation is the Dictionary of National Biography; the current online edition of DNB says he was elected Bishop of Salisbury 8 December 1246, receiving his temporalities in 1247). If this reference is to Roger III, it would suggest that he was born not later than 1226. However, the next reference to him is 20 years later, so perhaps the reference to Roger is to an earlier Roger Tempest, maybe a brother of Roger III's father, Richard.
At the York assizes in January 1267/68 Roger Tempest was described as chief lord of Waddington ("capital' dni' feodi'") (Assize Ro. 1050 52 H. 3. m 61d, EBT notes) and played a role in actions at that assize (see Appendix 2). In 1272 in an inquest for knights' fees, Roger Tempest of Bracewell held "vj et dim carucates" and "ij bovates," that is, 3 carucates in Stock and Bracewell, 1 carucate in Keighley, 1 carucate in Lacock, 1 carucate in Rilleston, and 7 bovates in Skipton (Yorkshire Deeds, v. 1, v. 39 of YASRS, p. 34). In 1276 Roger Tempest contributed to the crusades (Archbishop Gifford's Register, Surtees Soc v. 109, p. 284, I cannot verify the date from this entry but Gifford was Archbishop of York from 1266-79). In 1278/79 Dominus Roger Tempest was a witness to a charter, leading EBT to believe that he was knighted about that time (Dodsw. 155, f. 166, not seen). In October 1283 the fees assigned to the Queen mother Eleanor in the Skipton fee in lieu of Richmond fees included one knight's fee held by four individuals, including Roger Tempest (Cal. Pat. Ro. Ed. 1, 1281-92. p. 88). Kirkby's Inquest of 1284-85 (Surtees Soc. v. 49) records land held by Roger in Bracewell, Stock, and Waddington (see Appendix 2) while in 1287 an inquest showed Roger holding 6 carucates and 6 bovates of William de Fortibus [Forz], sometime earl of Albermarle [Aumale] (CIPM v. 4 has Addenda to v. 2, number 468 for William De Fortibus begins on p. 349, the reference to Sir Roger Tempest is on p. 352. EBT also references Escheat. Acct Extents No 1. According to DNB, William de Forz died 23 May 1260).
There are many other evidences of Sir Roger between 1266 and 1286 (see Appendix 2). EBT believes he died between 12 November 1287 when he was sworn on a jury (De Banco Ro. 69, Mich. 15-16. Ed. 1. m. 90 [16]) and June 1288 when his name on a panel for a jury (apparently a different jury) had "obiit" written over it (Ibid. m. 45d, this is CP40/69, m. 45d [17]). However, this latter date is somewhat questionable as the interlineation appears to be a later insert and is followed by an evidently later insert saying that the jury met 3 weeks from Holy Trinity, 18 Edward I (18 June 1290) suggesting an upper limit for Roger's death of that date.
Roger's wife was Alice, daughter and coheir of Walter de Waddington. She outlived Roger. EBT quotes a suit by her in October 1290 for her thirds of land in Bracewell, Stock [Stoke], Waddington, Rilleston, Skipton, and Stiveton [Steeton], identifying herself as "Alic' que fuit ux' Rog'i Tempest" (De Banco R. 88, Mich. 18-19 Ed. 1, m. 163d; this is CP40/86, the roll number has been changed from 88 to 86 [18]). Part of the case was renewed in 1298 (Ibid. Roll 127, Mich. 26 Ed. 1, m. 89d [19] and Roll 126, Trinity, 26 E 1, m. 93 [20]). This part was tried 1299 and in 1300 it was decided that she did not have dower rights to land in Steeton since her husband was not seized of that land when he married her nor thereafter (Ibid. Ro. 128, Hil. 27 Ed. 1, m. 90d [21] & Ro. 131, Trin. 27 Ed 1. m. 151 [22]). In 1298, Alice, widow of Sir Roger Tempest claimed jointure from John de Kirkby, but withdrew (De Banco Ro. 126, Trin. 26 Ed. 1, m. 93, referenced above).
Alice held dower of her grandson's estate in Bracewell and died 8 March 1301-2. EBT cites "Pipe Ro. 32 Ed. 1 and 33 Ed. 1, Escheators Accounts Ultra Trent 27-33 Ed 1 3/8 ans. 30 & 31" for these facts. The escheator's accounts are part of the Pipe Rolls and Chris Phillips has consulted the Pipe Roll for 33 Edward I (E 372/150 in the National Archives, we do not understand EBT's "3/8"). His transcription and translation of relevant entries in that Pipe Roll for 30, 31, and 32 Edward I (found in Appendix 1) appear to confirm EBT's account.
EBT questions whether Alice was an heiress of lands in Waddington since Roger Tempest is recorded as chief lord there in 1267-8 and a Walter de Waddington (presumably her father or brother) is recorded as being alive in 1276, 1277, and 1283. It is not clear how Roger became lord of Waddington. It is possible that part of it was in her dowry.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Richard Tempest III, b. ABT 1195 in Bracewell, Yorkshire, England d. BET 1256 AND 1258 in Bracewell, Yorkshire, England
Family 1: Alice de Waddington, b. ABT 1225 in Waddington, Yorkshire, England d. 8 MAR 1302 in Bracewell Craven, Yorkshire, England
- Richard Tempest IV, b. BET 1250 AND 1260 in Bracewell, Yorkshire, England d. 29 SEP 1297 in Bracewell, Yorkshire, England
Sources:
- Title: The Early Tempests
Author: Internet, Some Notes on Medieval English Genealogy, Families, The Early Tempests, by John R. Schuerman
Publication: Name: http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/families/tempest/early.shtml;
Note: The entry for Roger Tempest III: Sir Roger Tempest III. EBT says he was "born say 1226." The first notice of Roger identified by EBT is dated by her before 6 July 1247 when he was witness to a grant of the manor of Elslack (next to Bracewell) by Nicholas Ward to William of York (William of Ebor.), Provost of Beverley (Collect. Topo. et Geneal. Vol 6. p. 132. No T 18). She dates this from the time William of York was appointed Bishop of Salisbury (her citation is the Dictionary of National Biography; the current online edition of DNB says he was elected Bishop of Salisbury 8 December 1246, receiving his temporalities in 1247). If this reference is to Roger III, it would suggest that he was born not later than 1226. However, the next reference to him is 20 years later, so perhaps the reference to Roger is to an earlier Roger Tempest, maybe a brother of Roger III's father, Richard. [My question would be why an earlier Roger?]
Also, see Appendix 2 to this document.
Page: Birth year of Roger Tempest III
- Title: Transcript of Eleanor Blanche Tempest’s, Tempest Pedigrees, Volume 1
Publication: Name: http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/families/ebt/index.shtml;
Page: pp 16 - 20
- Title: Parish of Bracewell
Publication: Name: https://www.skiptoncastle.co.uk/craven-history/08_Parish-of-Bracewell.pdf;
- Title: Medieval English Geneaolgy : Tempest Wives & Daughters in the late Medieval Period
- Title: A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies ... By John Burke, Bernard Burke 2nd Edition
Author: page 520, gives accurate pedigree of the tempest line
Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?id=zs2YIGYcFYMC&q=tempest#v=snippet&q=tempest&f=false;
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