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William de Saye VI
- Preferred Name: William de Saye VI[1] [2] [3] [4]
- Alternate Name: William de Saye VI
- Gender: M
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Lord Baron of Berling & Sele with note: Data Standardization.
- Death: 16 DEC 1295 in West Greenwich, Kent, England at LATI: N1.4753 LONG: E0.012
- Birth: 20 NOV 1235 in Greenwich, Kent, England at LATI: N1.4805 LONG: E0.0098
- FSID: 9HKX-ZPF
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
1295
William de Say IPM
16 Sept etc 23EdwI
Geoffrey his son, aged 14, is his next heir.
properties mentioned: KENT Birlinge, Little Grenewych, Burgham, Codham SUSSEX Hammes HERTFORD Sabritteswrth.
MIDDLESEX Edelmeton
Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 3, Edward I, ed. J.E.E.S. Sharp and A.E. Stamp (London, 1912),
Oct 1295 to deliver to Elizabeth, late the wife of William de Say, tenant in chief, the manor of Codeham, co. Kents the manor of Hammes, co. Sussex...land in the manor of Berling, co. Kent, which the king has assigned to her in dower.
Close Rolls 1Edw Oct 1295
1296 April 26.
Confirmation of a grant by William de Valencia, earl of Pembroke, the king's uncle, to William de Hamelton,.... during the minority of the heir, of the manors of Sabrichchesworth and Grenewych,
Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edward I: Volume 3, 1292-1301
William de Say IV, s. and h., was b. 20 Nov. 1253. The wardship of his father's lands and heir had been granted by the King to Poncius de Mora, King's merchant, in discharge of the King's debts to him; but by Sep. 1273 William had bought the custody of the lands. On 27 July 1276 he was granted protection, being about to go to Ireland for 3 years. In 1277 he was sum. to be at Worcester on I July to serve in person against Llewellin Prince of Wales; John de Say seems to have served in his place. In 1282 and 1283 he was sum. to Worcester to serve against the Welsh. By writ dat. 30 Sep. 1283 he was sum. to attend the Parl. at Shrewsbury. In 1287 he was sum. to appear with horses and arms at a military council at Gloucester: in 1294 to attend the King on urgent affairs immediately upon receipt of the writ, dat. 8 June. On 14 June 1294 he was ordered to attend the King at Portsmouth on the affairs of Gascony; and on 15 July 1294 he was granted protection as going with Edmund the King's br. to Gascony. He m. Elizabeth. He d. on or before 16 Sep. 1295.
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Say, William -1295
1295
William de Say IPM
16 Sept etc 23EdwI
Geoffrey his son, aged 14, is his next heir.
properties mentioned: KENT Birlinge, Little Grenewych, Burgham, Codham SUSSEX Hammes HERTFORD Sabritteswrth.
MID
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.35, 41, 49;
=== !Brown book #5, chart 668. Crispin's: Ea ===
!Brown book #5, chart 668. Crispin's: Ealaise Roll: 1938, p50. Burke's: Dormant Baronage. Hasted's (or Halsted's) Hist of Kent. Gen #20-Croke: V2.
=== !NOTE:He was govenor of Rochester Castle ===
!NOTE:He was govenor of Rochester Castle, Kent County.
=== Source: Weis, Sheppard, Beal, The Magna ===
Source: Weis, Sheppard, Beal, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 5th Ed., Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, [1999], 16A-3. [p. 125]
Preferred Parents:
Father: William de Saye, b. 12 FEB 1209 in West Greenwich, Kent, England d. 12 FEB 1272 in Rochester, Kent, England
Mother: Sibyl Marshal, b. ABT 1213 in Lenton, Lincolnshire, England d. ABT 1270 in Austria
Family 1: Mary Elizabeth Plantagenet, b. 1255 in Winchester, Hampshire, England d. 1295 in Kent, England
- m. 1277 in Elsenham, Essex, England
- Geoffrey de Saye, b. 3 MAR 1281 in Birling, Kent, England d. 1322 in Birling, Kent, England
Sources:
- Title: William de Say IPM
Author: 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Henry III, File 42', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 1, Henry III, ed. J E E S Sharp (London, 1904), pp. 273-287 via British History Online or Internet Archive.
Publication: Name: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol1/pp273-287;
Note: Writ, 12 Feb. 56 Hen. III.
William de Say, his son, age variously stated as 18 on the feast of St. Edmund the King last, and 19 on the same feast, is his heir.
Hertford. Exent, Saturday after St. Matthias (?) 56 [Hen. III.].
Sabritteswrth manor (extent given of the part which was of William de Say), tenure unspecified.
- Title: Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edward I: Volume 3, 1292-1301
Author: '1296, membranes 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1', in Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edward I: Volume 3, 1292-1301, ed. H C Maxwell Lyte (London, 1895), pp. 186-211.
Publication: Name: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-pat-rolls/edw1/vol3/pp186-211;
- Title: Close Rolls, Edward I: October 1295
Author: 'Close Rolls, Edward I: October 1295', in Calendar of Close Rolls, Edward I: Volume 3, 1288-1296, ed. H C Maxwell Lyte (London, 1904), pp. 433-437. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-close-rolls/edw1/vol3/pp433-437 [accessed 3 October 2020].
Publication: Name: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-close-rolls/edw1/vol3/pp433-437;
- Title: William de Say in Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors
Author: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p375.htm#i11249
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p375.htm#i11249;
Note: Sir William de Say (1,2,3,4)
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
M, #11249, b. 20 November 1253, d. before 16 September 1295
Father Sir William de Say, Constable of Rochester Castle (5,6) b. b 1209, d. c 12 Feb 1272
Mother Sibyl Marshal (5,6) d. a Nov 1253
Sir William de Say was born on 20 November 1253 at of West Greenwich, Birling, Bourne in Bishopsbourn, Burham, & Cudham, Kent, England. (2,4) He married Elizabeth circa 1273; They had 1 son (Sir Geoffrey, 1st Lord Say) and 1 daughter (Mary, wife of John de Northwode). (2,3,4) Sir William de Say died before 16 September 1295 at of Great Linton, Cambridgeshire, England. (2,4)
Family: Elizabeth d. a 1308
Children: Mary de Say (2,3,4) b. c 1274, d. b 1307
Sir Geoffrey Say, 1st Lord Say+ (2,4) b. bt 1279 - 1281, d. c 3 Mar 1322
Citations:
1. [S2714] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, by F. L. Weis, 4th Ed., p. 17.
2. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 500-501.
3. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 101.
4. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 564.
5. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 497-498.
6. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 562-563.
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