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Muireadhach Menteith The Younger Earl of Menteith II
- Preferred Name: Muireadhach Menteith The Younger Earl of Menteith II[1]
- Gender: M
- FSID: GXPV-L5Z
- Birth: 1147 in Perthshire, Scotland, United Kingdom at LATI: N6.5 LONG: E4
- Death: JAN 1234 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland, United Kingdom at LATI: N6.4 LONG: E3.4333
- Burial: JAN 1234 in Scotland
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Maurice-the-Younger-Menteith-3rd-Earl-of-Menteith/6000000009898380951?through=6000000004533926117
same
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: Mormaer of Menteith
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: 3rd Earl of Menteith
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: 3rd Earl of Menteith
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: 3rd Mormaer (Earl) of Menteith
- Life Sketch: with note: Description: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muireadhach_II,_Earl_of_Menteith
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
About Maurice 'the Younger' Menteith, 3rd Earl of Menteith
Notes
◦1 - Of the original line of the Earls of Menteith only three are known— Gilchrist, Murdoch, and Maurice. On the death of Earl Maurice, about the year 1226, his title and estates descended to his daughter, Isabella, the wife of Walter Comyn, second son of the first Earl of Buchan.
2 - Muireadach II of Menteith, or Muiredach âOg, (also written as Murethach, Murdoch or Maurice), ruled 1213-1234, is the third known Mormaer of Menteith. Muireadach gained the Mormaerdom by challenging the rights of the current Mormaer, his elder brother, also called Muireadhach, hence Muireadhch Mâor (in English, "the elder"). The case apparently went to arbitration, and the king decided on the right of Muireadhch âOg. On December 13, 1213, Muireadhach Mâor resigned the Mormaerdom, taking lesser lands and titles in compensation . Muireadhach âOg was one of the seven mormaers present at the coronation of King Alexander II of Scotland in 1214, and Muireadhach accompanied the king in the funeral cortáege of his father and predecessor, King William of Scotland. Muireadhach âOg appears again in the company of the king in 1224, when he appears on a charter issued at Stirling granting rights to Paisley Abbey. In a document dating to 1226, Muireadach is referred to as "Sheriff of Stirling".
He had no legitimate sons, but two daughters, Isabella (Iosbail), who married a Comyn, and Maria (Máaire), who married a Stewart; both became countesses in their own right.
Muireadach was dead by January, 1234, when his successor appears with the comital title for the first time.
Links
http://www.cyberancestors.com/cummins/PS91_267.HTML
Sources
1.[S265] Colquoun_Cunningham.ged, Jamie Vans
2.[S285] London 1910. Alan Sutton, 1982, G E C, (London 1910. Alan Sutton, 1982)
3.[S332] www.electricscotland.com
see thepeerage.com pg 512 (copied from merge)
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20LATER.htm#MaryMenteithdiedbefore1286 as of 12/7/2018
MAURICE (-[Mar 1226/Jan 1234]). A notification dated 20 Sep 1261 refers to the i
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He was the third son of Alexander, Earl of Menteith. Like his father and brothers, his surname was "Menteith" rather than Stewart, even though he could claim agnatic descent from the Stewarts. He was
=== Murethach or Murdach, second Earl of Men ===
Murethach or Murdach, second Earl of Menteith. c 1180-1213. The second Earl of Menteith whose name has been ascertained is Murethach or Murdach. No evidence of relationship between him and Earl Gilchrist, his immediate predecessor in the earldom, has been discovered. But, according to chronology, Murdach probably was the son of Gilchrist, and the immediate inheritor of the earldom, although at that early date mere possession of the territorial earldom would give right to the dignity.
Murethach, Earl of Menteith, was one of the witnesses to an agreement made in the year 1199 or 1200, between Gilbert, prior, and the canons fo St Andrews, and the Culdees of that place, respecting certain teinds, which were in dispute between them. The prior and canons thereby granted to the Culdees the teinds of their lands of Kingask, Kinnakelle with Petsporgin and Petkennin, Lethin with Kinninis, Kernis with Cambrun, the rest being retained in the hands of the canons for marriages, purifications, obligations, baptisms, and burials, those of the Culdees being excepted, who might bury where they chose. The Culdees were to have all the teinds and revenus of Kilglassin, except baptisms and burials, inasmuch as the Culdees had given to the canons the lands of Tristirum in perpetuity, freely and quielty, as the Culdees themselves had held that town.
From this agreement it appears that Earl Murdach succeeded to the earldom between the years 1180 and 1200, towards the end of the reign of King William the Lion. He died during the reign of that sovereign, before the year 1213. [Red Book of Menteith I:6]
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Paul in "Scots Peerage" and Cokayne in "Complete Peerage" seem to believe that Murdach and the elder Maurice are one in the same persons, however the chronology of the lineage would tend to support the findings of Fraser in "The Red Book of Menteith."
=== MAURICE the younger, brother. He was one ===
MAURICE the younger, brother. He was one of the Seven Earls who took measures for the Coronation of Alexander II [SCT], 6 December 1214, and attended the funeral of his father, William the Lion, at Arbroath.4 days later. In 1224 (September 5) he witnessed at Stirling a charter of Alexander II to the abbey of Paisley; and in March 1225/6, as Earl of Menteith and sheriff of Stirling, was witness to a confirmation by that King to the abbey of Cambuskenneth. [Complete Peerage VIII:660]
=== !#21-v8-p660*,662: #189-v1-p12; !yr bro ===
!#21-v8-p660*,662: #189-v1-p12; !yr bro of Murdoch (Maurice), Earl of Menteith;
Family 1: Marie Menteith 5th Countess Of Monteith, b. 1190 in Perthshire, Scotland d. 1272 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, Scotland
- m. 1211 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland
- Isabella Bossell Countess of Menteith, b. 1217 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland d. 1272 in Kidrummy Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Sources:
- Title: Archive.com
Publication: Name: https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun06paul/page/127/mode/1up;
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