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Odo de Carew
- Preferred Name: Odo de Carew[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16]
- Alternate Name: William de Carew
- Alternate Name: Otho Fitz Gerald de Carrio or de Carew
- Alternate Name: Odo Fitzwilliam De Carew
- Alternate Name: William Fitz Odo Carew
- Alternate Name: William Of Idrone De Carew
- Alternate Name: William of Carew
- Alternate Name: Otho Fitz Gerald de Carrio or de Carew
- Alternate Name: William Fitz Odo de Carew
- Gender: M
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/William-de-Carew/6000000008355923255?through=6000000007151269266
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Lord
- Birth: ABT 1125 in Carew, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom at LATI: N1.6972 LONG: E4.8222 with note: There was no United Kingdom until 1801
- National Identification: with note: Description: IND3237
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Sir Knight
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Lord of Carew and Moulesford
- Death: 17 SEP 1213 in Carew, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom at LATI: N1.6972 LONG: E4.8222 with note: There was no United Kingdom until 1801
- FSID: LWMW-JKY
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
About Odo de Carew
THE ORIGIN OF THE CAREWS It may have been observed by some that in the Fitzgerald pedigree which I gave at the close of my paper on the origin of that family,1 I followed the example set by Mr. Dimock, when editing Giraldus Cambrensis (Rolls Series), in omitting William Fitzgerald's eldest son Odo, who is claimed as the Carews' ancestor. This I did for two reasons. In the first place Giraldus himself, though naming Odo de Kerreu ' as his cousin (consobrinus)2, nowhere states distinctly who his father was, while he somewhat pointedly ignores him in the Expugnatio Hibernite ; in the second the charter of 1212, restoring Moulsford, Berks, 3 on which the origin of the family has long rested in pedigrees, proves that Odo was a grandson of Gerald Fitz Walter (de Windsor), but does not tell us which of Gerald's sons was his father, or indeed prove that he was not merely a maternal grandson. It was safer, therefore, to leave the descent open until it could be absolutely proved.4 Fortunately I have, since then, noted the missing link needed to complete the proof. In the Monasticon (vi. 837), among the endowments of the Hospitallers' Commandery at 'Walinton,' we find this entry : Willelmus filius Geraldi et Odo filius ejus dederunt totam villam de Rubard cum omnibus pertinentiis.5 The place is Redbarth, a parish adjoining that of Carew, and the entry is proof positive that Odo was a son, and indeed the heir, of William son of Gerald Fitz Walter.6
1 The Ancestor, ii. 98. 2 Gerald, who prided himself on his Latinity, may have used the term in a strict sense. 3 See p. 24 below. 4 Sir Harris Nicolas, in his Roll of Carlaverock, speaks of the house of Carew as supposed to have sprung from Otho de Windsor, the common ancestor of the illustrious families of Windsor and Fitz-Gerald '(p. 154), and Mr. G. T. Clark similarly treats the connexion as open to question (Medieval Military Architecture, i. 116). 5 In the confirmation charter by Anselm, Bishop of St. David's (1230-1), the place is given as ' Redeborth.' 6 Walinton,' the site of the Commandery, was East Walton, Pembrokeshire, some twelve miles north of Carew Castle.
With the help of this evidence it will now at length be possible to prove and illustrate the pedigree throughout the twelfth century, the darkest and most difficult period in genealogical research. The pivot on which the story turns is that singular district around Pembroke, that ' little England beyond Wales,' which was destined to form the stepping-stone between England and Ireland. Of this district, with its strange place-names still preserving the memory of Norman or Flemish knights, Pembroke was of course the head; and of Pembroke the constable was Gerald, the patriarch of a spreading race. The neck of the Pembroke peninsula was guarded by Carew on its northern coast and by Manorbier on its southern, and these castles came to be held by grandsons of the lord Gerald.1 A puzzling passage in the work of Giraldus, De rebus a se gestis, relates that, while he was at school (i.e. attending the university) at Paris as a young man, consanguine! ipsius, sc. Willelmus filius Hay,2 Odo de Kerreu,3 et Philippus de Barri,4 frater ejusdem decimas suas . . . longe ante contulerant (i. 28). This would at first sight suggest that Odo ' de Kerreu ' was a brother of Philip de Barri ; but the important genealogical passage two pages earlier clears up the matter. After mentioning that * Ricardus filius Tancardi * was a great man in Pembrokeshire, and that he hated Gerald himself and all his folk, Gerald continues: Odo de Kerreu consobrinus Giraldi et Philippus de Barri frater ejusdem Giraldi,5 qui viri probi et magni fuerunt in finibus illis, licet generi praedicti Ricardi, sc. filias suas habentes uxores, tamen acerbe dixerunt illi quod taceret et a stultiloquio temperaret ; quia non tanta vindicta sumpta fuit de alio Giraldo, fratre sc. Odonis primaevo, pro quo dudum a Rosensibus interempto ducenti vlri et plures de eisdem uno die corruerunt (i. 26-7).
In another of his works, the Itinerary of Wales Gerald recurs to this tragedy on the occasion of his visiting Camrose.6 Kamros, ubi, pro juvenis egregii, Giraldi scilicet filii Guillelmi, nece, multorum caedibus cruentam nimis et gravem, tempore Stephani regis, propinqui
1 The Barrys of Manorbier, descended from Gerald through his daughter, recur in connexion with their neighbours the Carews, both in Pembrokeshire and in Ireland, generations later. 2 Of Hay's Castle (?) 3 Of Carew. Of Manorbier. 5 This supplies the missing word in the previous quotation. 6 To the north-west of Haverfordwest.
et necessarii sui, quanquam minus in hoc necessarii, vindictam in Rosenses exercuerant.1 The death of William Fitz Gerald is placed by his nephew the historian in or about 1174 in a passage which, explaining that it recalled his son Reimund to Wales, would rather suggest, as I hinted at the outset, that Reimund was his heir.2 We now know, however, that this was not the case. Putting together the above evidence, it proves this pedigree
Here I may explain that, having thus satisfied myself of the pedigree, I received from Dr. Owen a copy of his Old Pembrokeshire Families, which he was good enough to send me. This work, which is described on the title-page as compiled in part from the Floyd MSS.,' is a valuable contribution to early genealogy. I glanced at Mr. Floyd's piles of notebooks when they were deposited at the London Library, and saw that they seemed to 'contain,' as Dr. Owen observes, 'a wealth of information as to the families of other counties.' That careful and laborious antiquary' adopted the excellent method of arranging his notes under the names of the families to which they referred. Whether Mr. Floyd was as critical as he was certainly industrious it would not be possible to say without study of his notes; but his collections, now deposited unfortunately for London genealogists in the College Library at Aberystwyth, deserve to be widely known. With regard to Odo de Carreu there are two points, I fear, on which I must differ from Dr. Owen. In the first place he gives as Odo's mother, Katherine, a daughter of Sir
1 Itinerarium Kambriee (Rolls ed.), vi. 99. 2 'Reimundus, ob patris quern audierat obitum, nobilis videlicet viri Guillelmi Giraldidae, remenso pelago in Kambriam recessisset' (v. 310).
Adam de Kingsley, in Cheshire.' This match, I venture to say, is obviously hall-marked as one of those I spoke of in my Studies in Peerage and Family History, where I observed that a Lane, 'under William Rufus, married into one of those "leading families" whose daughters have always been kept in stock at Her Majesty's College of Arms ' (p. xv.). In other words, the marriage must be taken from an old herald's pedigree. The good 'Sir Adam' would have lived about the year 1100, and maybe fitly compared with that Sir Richard Stackpole of whom Dr. Owen writes : There is in the writer's possession a print of one 'Sir Richard Stackpole of Pembrokeshire,' stated (although his looks belie it) to have been 'highly respected in the year 1091.' There is beneath the print a long and entirely inaccurate account of Sir Richard and of his descendants. Sir Richard had no existence. The second point on which I must differ is that Odo de Carreu is always styled 'Odo' (or ( 'Oddo'), and not as Dr. Owen makes it, 'Other,' which was the wholly distinct name of his first known ancestor. A good instance in point is afforded by a charter with which Dr. Owen seems to be unacquainted. This is the confirmation by Peter, Bishop of St. Davids, soon, I think, after 1176, of the dapiferatus of that see to William son of Maurice Fitz Gerald.1 Among the witnesses are : Ricardo de Haerford ; Tanchard filio ejus ; Oddone de Karreu . . .Philippe de Barry.
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.32;
=== Carew of Haccomb, Devonshire England, as ===
Carew of Haccomb, Devonshire England, as found in Baronetages of England:
This is a family of great antiquity and eminency, being feated in England before the conquest. The first ancestor we can trace is Other, who lived in Edward the confessor's time; whose son Walter de Windsor, so called from his being governor of that castle under the conqueror. He had two sons, William, progenitor to the Earl of Plymouth and Lord Windsor; and Gerald, castellan of the castle of Pembroke, who was a great soldier, and much in favour with King Henry I. This Gerald, was sometimes styled de Windsor, and sometimes Fitzwalter, by which letter name Camden styles him, mentioning that King Henry I gave him Maulesford in Berkes, and that the Carews as well of England as Ireland, desend from him. The name has been variously spelt, but was taken (as is imagined) from Carew Castle, in Pembrokeshire, which came to the family, with seven manors, by marriage of Gerald, before mentioned, with Nesta, daughter of Rees, prince of South Wales by whom he had three sons.
=== Grace, page 104 or 1 ===
Odo de Carew, eldest son, lord of Carew and Moulsford. Ancestor to the family of CAREW.
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=== Direct ancestor ===
Direct ancestor
=== (1162) ===
(1162)
Preferred Parents:
Mother: Angh ferch Gruffudd, b. 1110 in Wales
Family 1: Avice de Heireann, of Ireland, b. 1163 in Idrone, Ireland d. 1185 in Carew Castle, Pembrokeshire, Wales
- m. 1180 in Berkshire, England
- Nicholas de Carew of Carew Castle, b. 1185 in Moulsford, Berkshire, England d. 11 JUL 1228 in Moulsford, Wallingford, Berkshire, England
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