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Gervase de Throckmorton III
- Preferred Name: Gervase de Throckmorton III[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]
- Gender: M
- LifeSketch: with note: Description: Habington, Surv. of Worcs. (Worcs. Hist. Soc.), i, 226, Red Bk. of Bishopric of Worc. fol. 81.
- LifeSketch: with note: Description: J.H. Rounds, M.A., the great authority on the time of Domesday, says in reference to the Hide that "down to very recent years, it has been generally assumed that the hide of Domesday was a measure of land, although there was no agreement as to the area represented."
- Affiliation: with note: Description: As tracing the title of the property back to the time of Domesday, we know from contemporary documents that Henry de Throkemerton was the son of John de Throkemerton, who was taxed two marks in 1175, and that Adam was the son of Robert, who was the son of Henry: but we must assume that William was the son of Joscelin, who was the son of Edwardus, who was the son of Gervase who held land in 1086 in Throckmorton. "The bishop, who at this time held a manor in Throckmorton, in demesne, had other tenants at Throckmorton. Norman held half a hide of land and Osmund the Chamberlain half a hide.?? In a later survey the heir of Osmund, the Chamberlain, was holding at Throckmorton a hide and a half of land, which Osmund, son of Gervase, held of him. Bishop John about 1151 confirmed this tenement to Osmund for the service Malgetus did for it.
- Birth: 1080 in Throckmorton, Worcestershire, England at LATI: N2.1465 LONG: E2.0337
- LifeSketch: with note: Description: The name Throckmorton, like the majority of surnames of three or more syllables, has undergone many changes in spelling during the centuries of its existence. The principal of these changes are as follows:
- LifeSketch: with note: Description: Throckmorton name meaning: According to the English Place-Name Society, the farm by the frog-marsh. Old English proc "beam bridge" mere "pool" tun "enclosure", "settlement." The Motto was generally a war cry. Motto: Virtue is the only nobility.
- Burial: 1135 in Throckmorton, Worcestershire, England at LATI: N2.1465 LONG: E2.0337
- Death: 1135 in Throckmorton, Worcestershire, England at LATI: N2.1465 LONG: E2.0337
- FSID: G7RB-9R8
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Gervase (Gervose)
http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/THROCKMORTON1.htm#Osmund%20De%20TROCKMORTON1
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Gervaise Throckmorton, Gender Male
Birth: 1080 - Throckmorton, Worcester, England
Death: 1135 - Throckmorton, Worcester, England
Gervaise de Throckmorton
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In a catalogue of the charters of the monastery of Worcester there is mentioned one by Wulfstan called the Archbishop, who
=== He is the first recorded of the Throckmo ===
He is the first recorded of the Throckmorton family.
Residence: Throckmorton, County Worcester, England, where the family resided for 12 generations and over three centuries.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Gervase de Throckmorton II, b. 1042 in Normandy, France d. in Throckmorton, Worcestershire, England
Mother: Gervase De Throckmoton II, b. 1045 in Normandy, France
Family 1: Gervase de Throckmorton III, b. ABT 1090 in Throckmorton, Worcestershire, England d. in England
- m. ABT 1109 in Throckmorton, Worcestershire, England
- Osmond de Throckmorton, b. ABT 1110 in Throckmorton, Worcestershire, England d. ABT 1154 in Throckmorton, Worcestershire, England
Sources:
- Title: The bishop, who at this time held a manor at Throckmorton
Author: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Gervase_De_Throckmorton_%281%29
Publication: Name: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Gervase_De_Throckmorton_%281%29;
Note: Habington, Surv. of Worcs. (Worcs. Hist. Soc.), i, 226; Red Bk. of Bishopric of Worc. fol. 81. The bishop, who at this time held a manor at Throckmorton in demesne, had other tenants at Throckmorton; Norman held half a hide of land and Osmund the Chamberlain half a hide. In a later survey the heir of Osmund the Chamberlain was holding at Throckmorton a hide and a half of land which Osmund son of Gervaise held of him. Bishop John (c. 1151) confirmed this tenement to Osmund for the service which Malgetus did for it . Osmund son of Gervaise still held a virgate at Throckmorton at the beginning of the 13th century.
Page: The bishop, who at this time held a manor at Throckmorton
- Title: Victoria History of Worcestershire, vol. III. page 356
Author: Http://www.genealogy.com/users/m/y/e/Ron-C-Myers/GENE30-0284.html.
Publication: Name: Http://www.genealogy.com/users/m/y/e/Ron-C-Myers/GENE30-0284.html. ;
Note: "In 1416, June 16, the Bishop of Worcester obtained a license to grant 14 messages and 2 carucates(+) of land in Throckmorton, parcel of the Manor of Fladbury, to Sir John de Throckmorton, to be held of the bishop at a fee farm rent. This was probably the estate which the bishop held in demesne in the twelfth century." (Victoria History of Worcestershire, vol. III. page 356.) On this grant Leland statement, often quoted, was based.
It will be seen on perusal of the text that the Throckmortons were the principal owners of land in Throckmorton from 1175, and possibly long before. Robert de Throkemerton, in 7 Edw. III (1335), in a charter at Coughton, is spoken of as Lord of Throckmorton.
There is no definite or documentary evidence as to the descent of John de Throkemerton of 1175, unless one accepts the following taken from the Feudal Aids of Worcestershire, 20 Edw. III:
".... Johannes Hyband tenit unam hidam in Throkemorton quam Henricus filius Johannis. Adam filius Roberti?? Willieli??us filius Jocelin et Edwardus filius Gernassi quondam tennerunt."
As tracing the title of the property back to the time of Domesday, we know from contemporary documents that Henry de Throkemerton was the son of John de Throkemerton, who was taxed two marks in 1175, and that Adam was the son of Robert, who was the son of Henry: but we must assume that William was the son of Joscelin, who was the son of Edwardus, who was the son of Gervase who held land in 1086 in Throckmorton.
"The bishop, who at this time held a manor in Throckmorton, in demesne, had other tenants at Throckmorton. Norman held half a hide of land and Osmund the Chamberlain half a hide.?? In a later survey the heir of Osmund, the Chamberlain, was holding at Throckmorton a hide and a half of land, which Osmund, son of Gervase, held of him. Bishop John about 1151 confirmed this tenement to Osmund for the service Malgetus did for it."
Page: Victoria History of Worcestershire, vol. III. page 356
- Title: Gervaise de Throckmorton & son Osmond
Author: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Gervase_De_Throckmorton_%281%29
Publication: Name: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Gervase_De_Throckmorton_%281%29;
Note: A hide, as much land as will support one family, the actual number of acres being apparently
different at different times and piaces. In old English law, a holding of land the
allotment of one tenant, a portion of land considered to be sufficient for the support of one
family, but varying in extent in every district according to local custom and the qua??y
of the soil, hence variously estimated ?? 60, 80 and 100 acres o?? more. It might also include
house, wood, meadow and ??ture necessary for the ??ce of the plowmen and
oxen. (Century Dictionary). King Al??ed made a law that all Freemen of the Kingdom
possessing two Hides of land should bring up their s??ns in lea?? (Baker's Chronicles.
p. 9). A hide is so much land as one plow can sufficiently till (Milton, History of Eng.,
p. 41). J. H. Rounds, M. A., the great authority on the time of Domesday says: in reference
to the Hide that: "Down to very recerst years it had been genera??y assumed that
the hide of Domesday was a measure of land, although there was no agreement as to the area
represented.
Page: Gervaise de Throckmorton & son Osmond
- Title: Gervaise de Throckmorton and son Osmond de Throckmorton
Author: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Gervase_De_Throckmorton_%281%29
Publication: Name: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Gervase_De_Throckmorton_%281%29;
Note: Gervaise de Throckmorton
Born Abt 1080 Throckmorton, Fladbury, Worcester, England
Gender Male
Died 1135 Throckmorton, Fladbury, Worcester, England
Age ~ 55 years
Family 1 Mrs. Gervase de Throckmorton, b. Abt 1084, of Throckmorton, Fladbury, Worcester, England
Married Abt 1104 of Throckmorton, Fladbury, Worcester, England
Children
1. Osmond de Throckmorton, b. 1110, Throckmorton, Fladbury, Worcester, England d. 1154 Age: 44 years
Page: Gervaise de Throckmorton and son Osmond de Throckmorton
- Title: Photo: interior throckmorton church
Author: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=&gsln=Throckmorton&msbdy=1080&msbpn__ftp=&msddy=&msdpn__ftp=&cpxt=0&catBucket=p&uidh=000&cp=0&gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&gst=&ghc=20&fh=20&fsk=BEEw5qUIgAAERQSh6EY-61-
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=&gsln=Throckmorton&msbdy=1080&msbpn__ftp=&msddy=&msdpn__ftp=&cpxt=0&catBucket=p&uidh=000&cp=0&gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&gst=&ghc=20&fh=20&fsk=BEEw5qUIgAAERQSh6EY-61- ;
Note: 6. Photo: interior throckmorton church.
Page: 6. Photo: interior throckmorton church.
- Title: Habington, Surv. of Worcs. (Worcs. Hist. Soc.)
Author: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Gervase_De_Throckmorton_%281%29
Publication: Name: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Gervase_De_Throckmorton_%281%29;
Note: Habington, Surv. of Worcs. (Worcs. Hist. Soc.), i, 226; Red Bk. of Bishopric of Worc. fol. 81. The bishop, who at this time held a manor at Throckmorton in demesne, had other tenants at Throckmorton; Norman held half a hide of land and Osmund the Chamberlain half a hide. In a later survey the heir of Osmund the Chamberlain was holding at Throckmorton a hide and a half of land which Osmund son of Gervaise held of him. Bishop John (c. 1151) confirmed this tenement to Osmund for the service which Malgetus did for it . Osmund son of Gervaise still held a virgate at Throckmorton at the beginning of the 13th century.
Page: Habington, Surv. of Worcs. (Worcs. Hist. Soc.)
- Title: Photo: Throckmorton Chaplery, Throckmorton, England
Author: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=&gsln=Throckmorton&msbdy=1080&msbpn__ftp=&msddy=&msdpn__ftp=&cpxt=0&catBucket=p&uidh=000&cp=0&gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&gst=&ghc=20&fh=20&fsk=BEEw5qUIgAAERQSh6EY-61-
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=&gsln=Throckmorton&msbdy=1080&msbpn__ftp=&msddy=&msdpn__ftp=&cpxt=0&catBucket=p&uidh=000&cp=0&gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&gst=&ghc=20&fh=20&fsk=BEEw5qUIgAAERQSh6EY-61-;
Note: Photo: Throckmorton Chaplery, Throckmorton, England.
Page: Photo: interior throckmorton church.
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