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Simon Fitzwilliam
- Preferred Name: Simon Fitzwilliam [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]
- Gender: M
- FSID: G6R7-TQJ
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Simon-de-Kyme-of-Sotby/6000000003827980529
- Death: ABT 1162 in Hackthorn, Lincolnshire, England at LATI: N3.3258 LONG: E0.506 with note: USER: Heather1,012: "The United Kingdom didn't exist before 1801!"
- Birth: ABT 1100 in Kyme, Lincolnshire, England at LATI: N3.0267 LONG: E0.6725 with note: USER: Heather1,012: "The United Kingdom didn't exist before 1801!"
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Kyme-13
Biography
NOTE: The family was not yet known as Kyme. This surname seems to have begun in this family in the next generation.
Simon the son of William (fitz William) first appears in the Lindsey survey which was made about 1115-1118. Unlike his apparent father known only as William in 1086 (Domesday Book), he was tenant-in-chief, meaning he had no overlord apart from the king. It is therefore often suggested that William or Simon must have been heir to William's overlord Walden the Engineer. This could have happened if William had for example married Walden's daughter.
Farrer wrote about Simon:
Simon son of William, for his own soul and Agnes his wife's soul founded the priory of nuns and brethren of the order of Sempringham in his park of Bullington and gave the churches of Bullington and Langton and his mill of Hackthorn with land in Faldingworth lying next Hanworth and Newton, and other land in Faldingworth of the fee of William Becket; these gifts he made by the hand of Robert II, bishop of Lincoln (1147-68); among the witnesses were Adelm dean of Lincoln (c. 1145-c. 1162), Robert the archdeacon, Philip de Kime, Simon and Walter, sons of the founder.[Mon. Anglic, vi. 952.] This foundation may be ascribed to about the date 1155-1160. The founder was farmer of the earl of Chester's land from Easter, 1158, to Michaelmas, 1161, being joined by Robert de Mohaut in 1160, in which year he was also farmer of Doncaster and so until 1161.[Pipe R., pass.] In that year, possibly in regard that he had acted as custos of the honor of Chester, he was pardoned 4 marks of the levy of his knights in Lincolnshire, and £4 in respect of the fees which he held of the bishop of Durham.[Ibid. 7 Hen. II, pp. 17, 37. ] In the following year he accounted for the amercements of his men in Lincolnshire,[Ibid. 8 Hen. II, p. 18.] and presumably died that year.
Keats-Rohan's entry for him says:
Son of William, father of Philip I de Kyme, Simon, William, Agnes, wife of Herbert fitz Adelard, and Sibil, wife of Roger de Benniworth. Cf. HKF iii [sic. should be ii] 118-19. Married twice, to Agnes and Sibil (BL Add. 6118, p.815, charter for Bullingdon). Died c.1162 Founder of the Gilbertine nunnery at Bullington (Gilbertine Chh. 91). B. Golding, 'Simon of Kyme; the making of a rebel', Nottingham Medieval Studies 27 (1983)
Research notes
According to modern editions of the Lindesey survey, Cawley is incorrect to state on his MEDLANDS project website (version of November 2018) that it calls him "Simon fitz William fitz Anschitel" holding land in Hackthorn. Presumably this comes from the old and highly criticized edition he uses.[1] It only says "Simon filius Wilellmi".
Perhaps this old text adjustment is associated with a proposal explained by Farrer (and also followed by Cawley) which effectively splits this Simon into three generations, a Simon fitz William, then a William for which there is no record, then a Simon fitz William. The connection seems to be that, associated with this discussion, Farrer mentions that Simon's family seem to be heirs not only of Simon fitz William in the Lindsey survey, but also a contemporary who some see as his father, named William fitz Anschetil, whose Domesday predecessor was named Anschetil.
However it does not seem necessary to add such an extra generation?
Sources
↑ Cawley's own footnote shows the hope and doubt involved: "Horace Round is highly critical of Waters’s edition (Round, J. H. (1909) Feudal England (London), The Lindsey Survey (1115-1118), p. 182-3), but there appears no reason to doubt the accuracy of the names of the persons which are recorded. ". See Kyme entry on MEDLANDS project
Farrer, Honors and Knights' Fees, Vol.2, p.118
Keats-Rohan, "Filius Willelmi, Simon" in Domesday Descendants, p.974
Also see
Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.
Sketches: Illustrative of the Topography and History of New and Old Sleaford, in the County of Lincoln, and of Several Places in the Surrounding Neighbourhood, p. 274
Burke's, A General and Heraldic Dictionary of of the Peerages, p. 299
The History and Antiquities of of Boston
Simon I Kyme
s/o William Kyme &
b- - Kyme, near Sleaford, Lincolnshire, England
m- Rose d/o Robert, Steward of Gilbert Gaunt
d-
brother of Sybil Kyme -m- Roger Benniworth
1136 (to 1154)- founded Bolington Priory, Lincolnshire
=== Notes and sources for Simon... ===
Simon de Kyme, son of William, founded Bullington Priory circa 1155-60, m. Agnes. [Complete Peerage VII:356 chart]
Note: CP has only one marriage for Simon, who is Agnes, so CP would have all children by Agnes. However Chris Phillips, citing Keats-Rohan "Domesday Descendants" p. 974, states that he had two wives, Sibil and Agnes. This fits with what I had (except that I had the 1st wife named Rohese, who I have now changed to Sibil). The proof for Sibil was given as a charter for Bullingdon, which fits with the surname I have for Sibil/Rohese.
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Of this ancient family, which assumed the surname of Kyme from a fair lordship, the principal place of their residence in Kesteven, co. Lincoln, the first mentioned in Simon de Kyme (son of William), who founded, temp. Stephen, the priory of Bolington, in Lincolnshire. This Simon m. Roese, dau. of Robert Dapifer (that is, steward to Gilbert de Gant, Earl of Lincoln), which lady was commonly called Roese de Bolington. He was s. by his son, Philip. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 309, Kyme, Barons Kyme]
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(aa) Rafin in 1086 was sub-tenant of 3 hides in Warnham, Sussex. In 1206 Hugh de Neville (of Essex) sued Robert de Caus for 2 1/2 fees in Stoke (Sussex), of which his great-grandfather Gilbert Rafin was seised temp. Henry I. In 1227 the same Hugh sued Philip de Kyme for land in Ingham and Coates, Lincs, as having belonged to his grandfather temp. Henry II. The jury ruled that one Simon, son of William had two nephews Bertram and William Raffyn, and to Bertram temp. Stephen, he gave land in Faldingworth, which Hugh, then still held, and to William the land in Ingham and Coates; afterwards, still temp. Stephen, being angry with William, he took away the land from him and kept it himself, and it descended to the ancestors of Philip; Hugh's grandfather was not siesed of the land in dispute temp. Hen II, but only temp. Stephen and in time of war. William Rasyn (sic) was a witness to the foundation of Bullington Priory by Simon, son of William after . . . de Faldigworda, and before Philip, Simon and Walter, the founder's sons. [Complete Peerage, IX:notes for chart between pages 503 and 504]
Preferred Parents:
Father: William de Kyme, b. 1060 in Lincolnshire, England d. 1100 in Kesteven, Lincolnshire, England
Mother: Coates, b. ABT 1080 in Ingham, Lincolnshire, England d. in Coates, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England
Family 1: Agnes Lindsey, b. ABT 1100 in Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England d. in Lincolnshire, England
- Hawise FitzSimon, b. 1129 in Kyme, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, England d. in Kyme, near Sleaford, Boston, Lincolnshire
Family 2: Isabella fitz Simon,
Sources:
- Title: Book - The History & Anitquities of Boston (Lincolnshire) "Kyme family"
- Title: The Barons of Pulford in the Eleventh and Twelfth Centuries and Their ... By Sir George Reresby Sitwell
Author: page 63
Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?id=09IKAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA63&lpg=RA1-PA63&dq=simon+fitz+william&source=bl&ots=gQjEKtYG8X&sig=FQGNAaWm_EYuJS4HZ2YPnNMQnrw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi5oOv5_6_VAhXhqFQKHf__CncQ6AEIMDAE#v=onepage&q=simon%20fitz%20william&f=false;
- Title: Book - Early Yorkshire Charters (footnote - Danelaw charters no 518)
- Title: Book - The Keim & Allied Families
- Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
Author: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Chris Phillips, 16 Dec 2003.
Note: Source Media Type: Electronic.
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[S:Titl] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
[S:Note] Source Media Type: Electronic
[Page] Chris Phillips, 16 Dec 2003
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- Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt
Author: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, VII:356 chart.
Note: [PFT:AQ]
[S:Titl] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt
[Page] VII:356 chart
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- Title: Book - Sketeches, illustrative of the Topograthy of New & Old Sleaford
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