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Philippe Maunsell
- Preferred Name: Philippe Maunsell[1]
- Alternate Name: Philip Mansel
- Gender: M
- Residence: received the Manor of Oswick (Osmuche) in Glamorgan from his uncle, Sir Henry Harley with note: He built a fine mansion house at the Manor of Oswick.
- Occupation: invested as a Knight on the Roll of Battle Abbey1066
- FSID: LVTV-STR
- Birth: 1040 in Normandy, France at LATI: N8.928 LONG: E0.5326
- Residence: in settled in Buckinghamshire, England at LATI: N1.7627 LONG: E0.6592
- Death: in Buckinghamshire, England at LATI: N1.7627 LONG: E0.6592 with note: standardized
- Occupation: Cupbearer to William the Conqueror and accompanied him to England1066
- Notes:
=== Amongst the MSS preserved in the Royal L ===
Amongst the MSS preserved in the Royal Library at Paris is a book entitled, 'Armoires de Genealogie de la Famille de Mancel,' which commences thus, 'Adinoffe, grand Chambellan de Guillaume, eut pour petit fils, oui pur nepheu Phillipe.' This Philip was cup-bearer to the Conqueror, and accompanied him to England. HE was nephew of Sir Henry de Herle, and settling in County Bucks, married Demoiselle, daughter of Hugh de Montsorrel, of Leicestershire, with whom he got large estates in that county. He had five sons, viz., Henry, Philip, Robert, Michael, and Andrew. [History of Maunsell p7]
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Philip Maunsell, or Mansel (probably the name was not spelled Maunsell until after he had taken up his abode in England' perhaps after the Battle Abbey Rolls were compiled). He came over with William of Normandy, to whom he was, perhaps, cup-bearer. He was probably identical with Philip Mancel, either nephew or grandson of Adinoffe, Great Chamberlain to William Duke of Normandy; he was also, according to some authorities, nephew to Sir Henry Harley. He acquired some estates, either from Sir Henry Harley or elsewhere, probably in Bucks, possibly in Pyderton, or Petherton, in Somerset, and also, on his marriage with a daughter of Hugh de Montsorrel, or Mountsorrel (who possibly also came over with the Conqueror) in Leicestershire. He had, according to most authorities, five sons, viz., Henry, Philip, Robert, Michael, and Andrew; this is by no means certain, however, as in some instance only three sons are mentioned, or other names substituted. ( 'Armoires de Genealogie de la Famille de Mancel;' MS preserved in Paris, quoted by W W Maunsell; all the pedigrees recorded in MSS in the British Museum, etc.; with some discrepancies as to Philip's sons, and the county in which he first settled.) [History of the Maunsell Family I:71]
=== Date: 12/5/00 7:32:28 AM GMT Standa ===
Date: 12/5/00 7:32:28 AM GMT Standard Time From: stephen@corby90.freeserve.co.uk (Mr & Mrs.S.Williams) To: Pinkcrystalxxx@aol.com Hello Judith. It was interesting getting your information. We have Thomas and Anne Eaton as common ancestor. The son you descend from is William m. Alice. I come from Richard, m. Jane Waller. Snail mail is 29 Corby Crescent Anchorage Pk Portsmouth PO3 4UN. I am 49, was a teacher but had to take early retirement due to stress. That was 3 yrs ago and I am now improving healthwise. A long Haul. Husband Steve, 50, also was a teacher and Yr head but he left teaching this year and is a lab technician. The science skills carried across! Son Pete 26, lives in Leicester. He has BA, MA and M Phil in Philosophy and has had a book published. Best Regards from Linda ### Chronicles if the Conquest (Wace, Roman de Rou Then the Duke called his goodneighbour the Britons, Mansels and Angevins and those of Poutif and Boloigne to come whith him in his need. Saint Allais in his Dictionnaire de la Noblesse, quote Le Manusels an ancient family originally from Normandy. Nephew of Sir Henry Hartley a Knight from whom he receiveed the Manor of Osmuche, Glamorgan, and built a fine Mansion House. Philip was nephew of Sir Hartley who came from Normandy, to be the cupbearer to William the Conqueror. Mountsorrel is a village north of Leicester. Of course each individual has little stories, so here I have given only bare bones as it were. Bayeaux tapestry. Have I found Philip Maunsell??? The man in front is a servant with hand basin and towel for hand washing. Bishop Odo is the dominant figure blessing the food. The duke sits at the right of the Bishop with one hand in a dish taking the meal. The man the other side of Odo is signalling that the meal is over and it is time to leave. There is only one implement on the table and that is a knife, the only eating implement of the age. ### The Linage THE LINEAGE Philip Maunsell Amongst the manuscripts preserved in the Royal Library at Paris [now Bibliothéque National de France] is a book entitled: "Armoires de Genealogie de la Famille de Mancel", which commences thus: "Adinoffe, grand Chambellan de Guillaume, ont pour petit fils, on pour nepheu Philippe" [Adinoffe, Grand Chamberlain of William, sent for his grandsons or his nephew Philip]. This Philip was Cup Bearer to the Conqueror, and accompanied him to England. He was also the nephew of Sir Henry de Herlé and settling in County Buckinghamshire married Demoiselle de Montsorrel, daughter of Hugh de Montsorrel, of Leicestershire, with whom he got large estates in that county. He had five sons, viz. Henry, Philip, Robert, Michael and Andrew. His eldest son Henry Maunsell married Emma de Lucy, sister of Sir Richard de Lucy, [Constable of the Tower] Chief Justice of the Realm [jointly Justitiar of England with Robert of Beaumont, Earl of Leicester], who, in 1178, founded the abbey of Westwende, or Liesne (Errith Abbey), and was buried there the following year. Henry's eldest son, namely John Maunsell married Elaine de Lutterell, daughter of de Lutterell, Baron of Irnham, Lincolnshire. John had a son, viz.: Ralph Maunsell who married Cecily Pagnell, daughter of that Gervaise Pagnell, Baron of Dudley [Worcester- shire], who, in 1138, held the Castle of Dudley for the Empress Maud. Ralph got a fee of the new feoffment of Gervaise Pagnell and held it, as per state records, in 1167. Cecily was a granddaughter of Fulk Pagnell, Baron of Dudley, by the daughter and sole heiress of William Fitzasculph, who founded the monastery near Newport-Pagnell [Buckinghamshire], called Tickford, and gave thereto the church of Newport, with its appurtenances, together with the churches and lordships of Bradwell, Willen, and Chicheley [all Buckinghamshire], the mill at Caldecote, and half a yard of land with the meadow which belongs to the mill, and some property in Northampton, to which his son Gervaise [Cecily's father], subsequently addded t he church at Aston, juxta Birmingham. Ralph, with consent of his wife and of his son and heir, for the souls of his father and mother and his sons, Gilbert, Roger, Simon, William and Hugh gave his land "Cuculmes Ho" to Tickford Priory. This grant was made in the presence of, and confirmed by Gervaise Pagnell, for the general confirmatory charter from Gervaise Pagnell to the priory includes all the mere, and lands, meadows and pastures, and woods, liberties and ways, of the gift of Ralph Maunsell and Cecily, his wife. His eldest and only surviving son and heir Sir Robert Maunsell Knight-Banneret, attacked and defeated Nouradin, the Sultan, at La Bochen, near Tripoli, with Gilbert de Lacy, in 1163. On his return from the war he married Joice de Alneto, one of the three daughters and co-heir of William de Alneto, or Dawney, Lord of Turvey [Bedfordshire, and Maidford], by Joice d' Engain. Her eldest sister married Eustace le Mordaunt, ancestor of the Earls of Peterborough, and the second married Richard de Andres. Robert [BURKE'S Landed Gentry treats of him as Saher or Sier], with other estates, held also the Manor of Sedgway, Co. Sussex, in capite of the king [Henry II, 1154-89]. His eldest son Walter Maunsell held the serjeanty of Little Missenden, Co. Buckinghamshire, as Napkin Bearer to the king, and owned the manors and lands of Soulbury, Co. Buckinghamshire, Ingepenne, Co. Berkshire, and lands in Staffordshire by the service of marshalling in the house of the king. He had also one knight's fee of Roger de Somery of the honour of Dudley, and one fee of the honour of the earl and one fee of the marshal in Buddeley, Co. Wiltshire, and, with Nicholas de Ingepenne and the Abbot of Tyckford, held two fees of the fee of Roger de Somery. Also he held two fees in Hartwell, Co. Northamptonshire, of the fee of Pevershale of Nottingham "by the serjeanty of finding for our Lord the King, for his army in Wales, one horse of the price of 5 shillings, with a halter of the price o f one penny and to pay toll for fourty days." His lands were taken from him in 1216, but were restored secondly by Henry III. Walter married Hawisia de Somerie, daughter of John de Somerie by Hawisia Pagnell, daughter of Gervaise Pagnell, Baron of Dudley (this latter Hawisia married secondly Roger de Berkeley, of Berkeley Castle, Co. Gloucestershire [by Hawisia de Ferrers, daughter of Robert de Ferrers, Earl of Derby, by Hawisia, daughter of Andre de Vitre, by Agnes (de Conteville), half-sister of the Conqueror]). For the health of the soul of his cousin, and wife's uncle, Robert Pagnell, last of the two sons of Gervaise Pagnell, he bestowed some of the lands of Ingepenne on the Priory of Tickford, which gift his son, John [of whom afterwards], subsequently confirmed in his court at Soulbury [Co. Buckinghamshire], his brothers Philip, Henry, Peter and Robert being witness to the deed. Walter died about 1250, for in the following year Hawisia held the lands of Ingepenne in dower. His eldest son John Maunsell
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Preferred Parents:
Father: Henri De Le Mans, b. 1012 in Le Mans, Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France
Family 1: Agnes Demoiselle de Montsorrel, b. ABT 1050 in Normandy, France d. in Leicestershire, England
- Henry Maunsell, b. 4 APR 1068 in Normandy, France d. 1100
Sources:
- Title: "History of Maunsell or Mansel, and of Crayford, Gabbett, Knoyle, Persse, Toler, Waller, Castletown Waller, Prior Park; Warren, White, Winthrop, and Mansell of Guernsey," compiled by Robert George Maunsell
Author: Published 1903 by Guy and Company, Limited in Cork .
Publication: Name: https://archive.org/stream/historyofmaunsel00maun#page/n33/mode/2up/search/herle;
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