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Oliver Wise I
- Preferred Name: Oliver Wise I
- Gender: M
- Biography+of+Oliver+Wise: with note: Description: BIOGRAPHY
According to: "King Arthur's European Realm: New Evidence from Monmouth's Primary Sources," by Paul Sire (see Sources), an Alemanni tribe known as the "Gewise," "Gwiss," or "Hwiss," (pronounced "Chwiss") were brought from the northern Alps to Britain as soldiers by Roman emperor Valentinian I (ca. 370 CE). They settled in what is now Shropshire and by 450 CE (Roman troops left Britain in 407 CE) had moved into Gloucestershire, inter-marrying with the native Celtic Dobunni peoples. Their "capital" was Cirencester. One of their early leaders was "king" Vortigern, who was later accused of inviting the Saxons to settle in Britain, leading to several centuries of Anglo-Saxon vs Celtic Briton conflicts. One of the quasi-legendary leaders of the "West Saxons" whose kingdom was called "Wessex" was named "Cerdic, First King of Wessex" ca. 530 CE; author Paul Sire says Cerdic's great-grandfather's name was "Gewise" and came from the Cirencester area.[1]
The Kingdom of Wessex lasted nearly 500 years, centered around Winchester, but its connection to the Gewise or Gwiss tribe was soon lost and nothing is known of their contributions to the building of England. Family records indicate that the most-recent known ancestor was "Oliver Wise" or "Gwiss" who lived in Gretton, a village just 23 miles north of Cirencester, Gloucestershire, shortly before the [Norman] Conquest of 1066.
Early chronicles next state that an early Oliver Wise had a son, William, who lived from 1140-1225 CE. To me this indicates the "first" Oliver Wise (ca. 1040-1100) had a son, also named Oliver (ca. 1090-1160), whose son was William and so on. This seems the most-logical interpretation, given life-spans at that time and the paucity of contemporary records. It was this William Wise (1140-1225) that moved the family from Gretton (Gloucestershire) about 165 miles south-west to Greston/Greystone near Tavistock in Devonshire.[2]
According to Wise family sources: The Wises were established in the west of England before the time of the Conquest [1066 CE]. There was an Oliver Wise or GEWISS living at Greston [sic = Gretton]. Oliver Wise of Greston [Gretton] was followed by William Wise, whose son Serlonius Wise had three sons Oliver, Sir John and Henry Wise, who were all born at Greston [or Greystone]. These three sons were the founders of the three houses of Wise in Devonshire.
The son of Henry Wise (who was great-great-grandson of Serlonius) was Sir. William Wise, Knight, who lived circa 1200-1225. He married Ela de Veteriponte or DeViponte and in the right of his mother, their son Serlonius Wise became possessed of the manor of Threshelton, adjacent to Maristowe.
Serlonius's son was Sir Thomas Wise, father of John Wise of Sydenham. This John Wise married Joan’s daughter of John Millaton of Meavy and their son Thomas Wise by his alliance with Margaret, daughter and heiress of Robert Britt of Slottiscombe acquired the manor of Stoke Damarel where the Wise family afterward built "Mount Wise."[3]
SOURCES
1. ↑ Researched and written by Chet Snow, April-May, 2014,
2. http://books.google.com/books?id=QicXAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq
3. http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?serlonius::wise::310.html
Fulsome background research by Chet Snow; available thru WikiTree at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Wise-1595
- Birth: 1040 in England
- FSID: GCLS-85G
- Death: Y
Family 1: Oliver Wise, b. ABT 1038 in Sydenham Damerel, Devon, England, United Kingdom d. DECEASED in Sydenham Damerel, Devon, England, United Kingdom
- Oliver Wise II, b. 1066 in Winchcomb, Gloucestershire, England d. 1141 in Winchcomb, Gloucestershire, England
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