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Thomas de Grene IV of Grene's Norton
- Preferred Name: Thomas de Grene IV of Grene's Norton[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15]
- Alternate Name: Thomas Green
- Gender: M
- FSID: L1DP-J4D
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Sir
- Birth: 10 FEB 1421 in Grene's Norton, Northamptonshire, England at LATI: N2.1424 LONG: E1.0228
- Death: 9 SEP 1462 in Grene's Norton, Northamptonshire, England at LATI: N2.1424 LONG: E1.0228
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
About Sir Thomas de Grene, of Grene's Norton
From http://thepeerage.com/p337.htm#i3364
Sir Thomas de Grene IV, of Grene's Norton, was born in 1421 and died on 9 September 1462.
parents: son of Sir Thomas Greene and Philippa Ferrers.
married
Matilda Throckmorton, daughter of Sir John de Throckmorton. Note: Possibly Maud and Matilda are the same person, as different sites show either as the mother of John. Other sites, however, show them as sisters both married to Thomas.
Note: "Maud" *is* short for "Matilda", and had long since become the common-use form, with "Matilda" restricted to formal occasions and legal documents (hattip to Justin Swanstrom).
Child of Sir Thomas Greene and Matilda Throckmorton
Sir Thomas de Grene+ b. c 1461, d. 9 Nov 1506. Married Joan Fogge.
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Sir Thomas de Grene, of Grene's Norton, b. Grene's Norton, 10 Feb. 1399/1400, d. 18 Jan. 1461/1462, sheriff of Northamptonshire 1454, m. (1) by 16 Dec. 1421, Philippa de Ferrers, and prob. had, evidence unverified.
Elizabeth de Grene, m. abt. 1440, William Raleigh, Esq., of Farnborough, co. Warwick, d. 15 Oct. 1460, son of John Raleigh and his wife Idony Cotesford, dau. of Thomas Cotesford. (The fact fact of this marriage is stated in two later pedigrees, one Greene (British Libary, P 13573 Harl. 1412) and one Raleigh (Visit of Warwick (1619), 77), and supported by the Inq.p.m. of Elizabeth's brother, Sir Thomas Greene, recording that on 4 Jul. 1452 William Raleigh (with other feoffes who were related to Thomas's wife Mathilda (Maud) Throckmorton) were seised of the Greene manor of Kegworth, co. Leicester, which they released to Thomas Greene and his wife Mathilda; but see note at end.)
NOTE: the 1585 King of Arms Greene pedigree, cited in gen. 35, states that Thomas and Philippa had three sons (Thomas, Anthony and John) and four daughters (Elizabeth wife of "Sir William Rowley of co. Warwick," Joan, wife of John Reading, Isabel, wife of Edmund Cornwall, Margaret, wife of Nicholas Haulte) (printed in The Greene Family of England and America with Pedigrees (Boston, 1901)). Search of published contempory records has provided as yet the identification of only two children of Thomas and Philippa: Thomas and Isabel.
Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to America before ... By Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Kaleen E. Pg.20
http://books.google.com/books?id=3F9nG8aFJ7MC&pg=PA20&lpg=PA20&dq=Thomas+Greene+1421&source=bl&ots=9jCcrKJous&sig=cyMI1aRp9hXZ70aXf8e1X1ARzMs&hl=en&ei=gcuTTKmYI4aWsgO9hsnACg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CDcQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Thomas%20Greene%201421&f=false
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Sir Thomas de Grene, of Grene's Norton, b. Norton, 10 Feb 1399/1400, d. 18 Jan 1461/2, sheriff of Northamptonshire, 1454; m. (1) Philippa de Ferrers (115-9) d. 3 Nov 1415.
Elizabeth de Grene; m. by 1432, William Raleigh, Esq., of Farnborough, co. Warwick, d. 1460
Sir Edward Raleigh, Knt., of Farnborough, b. c. 1441, d. bef. 20 June 1509, sheriff of Warwickshire and Leicestershire; m. 1467, Margaret Verney, dau. of Sir Ralph Verney, Lord Mayor of London.
The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna Charta, 1215 ... By Frederick Lewis Weis, William Ryland Beall Pg.45
http://books.google.com/books?id=59XcwoRK9jkC&pg=PA45&lpg=PA45&dq=William+Raleigh+1415&source=bl&ots=KFpmwvbS8q&sig=VulLUKd8XFGDBoxeGYMz51JGrxQ&hl=en&ei=i6STTLq2JJSgsQP25rTACg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CDAQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=William%20Raleigh%201415&f=false
=== Sources: A Greene Family History; Promin ===
Sources: A Greene Family History; Prominent Families of the USA.
=== Sir Thomas Greene was a Knight of Greene ===
Sir Thomas Greene was a Knight of Greene's Norton, co. Northampton. He was Sheriff of Northamptonshire in 1416. 14-33. Weis.
=== !Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Cen ===
!Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists. The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, Edward II, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701 by David Faris First Edition. Sheriff of Northamptonshire.
=== Ancestral Roots of 60 Colonists, p. 34 ===
Ancestral Roots of 60 Colonists, p. 34
Family 1: Matilda Throckmorton of Coughton, b. 1425 in Coughton, Warwickshire, England d. 6 NOV 1496 in Fawsley, Northamptonshire, England
- m. 30 APR 1445 in Warwick, Warwickshire, England
Sources:
- Title: Ancestry Family Trees
Author: Ancestry Family Tree
- Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/9289/records/33146939;
- Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/9289/records/33147982;
- Title: Genealogy of the Stokes Family : Descended From Thomas and Mary Stokes Who Settled in Burlington County, N.J. (Indexed)
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/1864/records/47;
- Title: Richardson (2005). Magna Carta Ancestry (Pinchbeck, Hardwick, and Cavendish families)
Author: Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry (Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2005), 663-665, FHL Book 942 D5rdm.
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/68401822;
- Title: Greene Family History
Author: 929.273, "the green family" and -- 'New England' pp 2088 & 2089
Publication: Name: http://www.andymcarthur.com/uploads/5/6/2/7/5627281/greene.pdf;
Note: Mostly correct with some errors in family lines, technically the line ends with chief justice henry de greene as there is not a definate connection to his father out of Boughton, Northamptonshire named Thomas II
- Title: The Greene family and its branches from A.D. 861 to A.D. 1904 (1904)
Publication: Name: https://archive.org/details/greenefamilyitsb01lama;
- Title: American Genealogical-Biographical Index (AGBI)
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/3599/records/2493154;
- Title: UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/60526/records/1689977;
- Title: Families Directly Descended from All the Royal Families in Europe (495 to 1932) & Mayflower Descendants. Bound with Supplement
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FLHG-RoyalMayflowerDesc&h=427805&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt;
- Title: The Greene Family and Its Branches from A.D. 861 to A.D. 1904: Thomas de Greene
Author: The Greene Family and Its Branches from A.D. 861 to A.D. 1904, Lora Sarah (Nichols) La Mance of Pineville Missouri, Mayflower Publishing Co. 1200 Volumes Printed Floral Park, New York 1904, Page number: page 33-35
Note: ABBR The Greene Family and Its Branches
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3243944676
- Title: Burke’s Family Records (Indexed)
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/1860/records/13592;
- Title: Sir Thomas Sources and info
Author: You can also find his pedigree chart here too: https://books.google.com/books?id=wb0_AAAAcAAJ&pg=RA1-PR29&lpg=RA1-PR29&dq=lady+mary+talbot+%2B+thomas+greene&source=bl&ots=UcsEQ1xqqj&sig=YhGSnYpyICjQFMegPTVVdGWG5p0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=rE8CVZaLEcGBygSTnYHACw&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=lady%20mary%20talbot%20%2B%20thomas%20greene&f=false
Publication: Name: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Thomas_Green;
Note: Sir Thomas Green (c.1461 – 9 November 1506) was the son of Sir Thomas Greene (d. 1468) and Matilda Throckmorton (d. 1496), grandson of Sir Thomas Greene (d. 9 September 1462) and Philippa de Ferrers (d. 1458). He is best known as the grandfather of Katherine Parr, last wife of Henry VIII.
He is not the same or related to anyone in the Henry de grene line that was beheaded.
- Title: Millennium File
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/7249/records/10015189;
- Title: Historical Records of English Ancestry 1534-1902 Compiled from the missives of the late Major-General George Sears Greene, Louise Brownell Clarke
Author: Historical Records of English Ancestry 1534-1902 Compiled from the missives of the late Major-General George Sears Greene, Louise Brownell Clarke, Member of N.Y. Gen. & Bio. Soc. and Long Is.His. Soc., New York, New York by The Knickerbocker Press, 1903 Limited Edition,250 Copies, Page number: page 8
Note: ABBR The Greene's of R.I.
Source Media Type: Book
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3243944673
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