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Govert Van Deursen
- Preferred Name: Govert Van Deursen[1]
- Alternate Name: Govert Van Doorsen
- Gender: M
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Lord
- FSID: 29QN-ZT7
- Birth: 1325 in Deurne, Noord Brabant, Netherlands with note: MyHeritage Family Trees
- Birth: ABT 1340 in Deurne, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands at LATI: N1.4648 LONG: E0.7954
- Source: with note: Description: https://www.myheritage.com/names/govert_van%20deursen
- Death: 1384
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
"... custom), GovertVanDoorsen acknowledged for his liege- lord Jan III, the noblest duke Brabant had, who, with ever rare perception for those times of the natural human rights, and far ahead of his day..." taken from History book: Van Deursen Family, Volume 1
=== He acknowledged Jan III, as his liege (e ===
He acknowledged Jan III, as his liege (enlisted to service as his lord and sovereign.) Lord. Govert received his land as a hereditary feudality. "THE VAN DEURSENS IN THEIR BRABANT HOME" by Lollie Piers De Boer, L.L.B. (Leydon, 1905; M.A. Yale USA, 1910) "The ancient home of the Van Deursen family is at present (1910) a small village of 407 inhabitants, called Deurne-les (near) - Diest, in the South Netherlands (Belgian) Province, Brabant; commonly called South Brabant, in contrast with the North Netherland (Dutch) Province, North Brabant. It lies not far from the town Hasselt, on a little stream on 5 (o) 5 (1) E. Longitude of Greenwich and 51 (o) 3 (1) N. Latitude." "The earliest inhabitants of the country adjacent were a Celtic tribe, the Belges, who came in contact with the Romans during Julius Caesar's Gallic warfare. The name Deursen itself keeps the memory of thses early Celts alive. The word "Dur" means "water", of which "Deursen" is a locative from, "a place by the water." After the breaking up of the Roman Empire, the Franks conquered the country in the fifth century; and at least the nobility here, among whom is Found the family Deursen, can be said to be from pure Germanic, Frankish stock." In 1196, during the time of the third crusade, we find mentioned a Hendricus a Doersne (Hendrick van Doersen). It is not unlikely that he was in the crusade, and that the cross in the coat-of Arms was taken up by him. During the next, the thirteenth century, members of the family are frequently found in the "Meyery Van's Hertogenbosch" (the Majorate of Bois-le-Duc), the part of Brabant of which Deursen lies, and where the Lords Van Deursen kept up a kind of sovereign independency until the 1325. On the first of March, 1325 (a date according to old Frankish custom), Govert Van Doorsen acknowledged for his liegelord Jan III, the noblest duke of Brabant ever had, who, with rare perception for those times of the natural human rights, and far ahead of his day in h is method of governing, granted on his deceased father's and his own initiative, a liberal Charter to his subject in 1356." 1 He acknowledged Jan III, as his liege (enlisted to service as his lord and sovereign.) Lord. Govert received his land as a hereditary feudality. "THE VAN DEURSENS IN THEIR BRABANT HOME" by Lollie Piers De Boer, L.L.B. (Leydon, 1905; M.A. Yale USA, 1910) "The ancient home of the Van Deursen family is at present (1910) a small village of 407 inhabitants, called Deurne-les (near) - Diest, in the South Netherlands (Belgian) Province, Brabant; commonly called South Brabant, in contrast with the North Netherland (Dutch) Province, North Brabant. It lies not far from the town Hasselt, on a little stream on 5 (o) 5 (1) E. Longitude of Greenwich and 51 (o) 3 (1) N. Latitude." "The earliest inhabitants of the country adjacent were a Celtic tribe, the Belges, who came in contact with the Romans during Julius Caesar's Gallic warfare. The name Deursen itself keeps the memory of thses early Celts alive. The word "Dur" means "water", of which "Deursen" is a locative from, "a place by the water." After the breaking up of the Roman Empire, the Franks conquered the country in the fifth century; and at least the nobility here, among whom is Found the family Deursen, can be said to be from pure Germanic, Frankish stock." In 1196, during the time of the third crusade, we find mentioned a Hendricus a Doersne (Hendrick van Doersen). It is not unlikely that he was in the crusade, and that the cross in the coat-of Arms was taken up by him. During the next, the thirteenth century, members of the family are frequently found in the "Meyery Van's Hertogenbosch" (the Majorate of Bois-le-Duc), the part of Brabant of which Deursen lies, and where the Lords Van Deursen kept up a kind of sovereign independency until the 1325. On the first of March, 1325 (a date according to old Frankish custom), Govert Van Doorsen acknowledged for his liegelord Jan III, the noble st duke of Brabant ever had, who, with rare perception for those times of the natural human rights, and far ahead of his day in his method of governing, granted on his deceased father's and his own initiative, a liberal Charter to his subject in 1356." 1 He acknowledged Jan III, as his liege (enlisted to service as his lord and sovereign.) Lord. Govert received his land as a hereditary feudality. "THE VAN DEURSENS IN THEIR BRABANT HOME" by Lollie Piers De Boer, L.L.B. (Leydon, 1905; M.A. Yale USA, 1910) "The ancient home of the Van Deursen family is at present (1910) a small village of 407 inhabitants, called Deurne-les (near) - Diest, in the South Netherlands (Belgian) Province, Brabant; commonly called South Brabant, in contrast with the North Netherland (Dutch) Province, North Brabant. It lies not far from the town Hasselt, on a little stream on 5 (o) 5 (1) E. Longitude of Greenwich and 51 (o) 3 (1) N. Latitude." "The earliest inhabitants of the country adjacent were a Celtic tribe, the Belges, who came in contact with the Romans during Julius Caesar's Gallic warfare. The name Deursen itself keeps the memory of thses early Celts alive. The word "Dur" means "water", of which "Deursen" is a locative from, "a place by the water." After the breaking up of the Roman Empire, the Franks conquered the country in the fifth century; and at least the nobility here, among whom is Found the family Deursen, can be said to be from pure Germanic, Frankish stock." In 1196, during the time of the third crusade, we find mentioned a Hendricus a Doersne (Hendrick van Doersen). It is not unlikely that he was in the crusade, and that the cross in the coat-of Arms was taken up by him. During the next, the thirteenth century, members of the family are frequently found in the "Meyery Van's Hertogenbosch" (the Majorate of Bois-le-Duc), the part of Brabant of which Deursen lies, and where the Lords Van Deursen kept up a kind of sovereign independency until the 1325. On the fir st of March, 1325 (a date according to old Frankish custom), Govert Van Doorsen acknowledged for his liegelord Jan III, the noblest duke of Brabant ever had, who, with rare perception for those times of the natural human rights, and far ahead of his day in his method of governing, granted on his deceased father's and his own initiative, a liberal Charter to his subject in 1356." 1 !Living in 1325
=== There is a 1-2 generation gap between Govert and Jan Van Deursen ===
nothing is known about the intervening generations
=== Govert VAN DOORSEN Lord
Male
Birth: Abt ===
Govert VAN DOORSEN Lord
Male
Birth: Abt 1300
Death:
Buried:
Father: Hendricus VAN DOERSEN b. Abt 1196
Mother:
Spouse:
Married:
Children
1. Jan VAN DEURSEN b: Abt 1367
Genealogical History of the Van Deursen Family Before Abraham Pietersen Came To America
This information is believed to be correct. This information was gathered at Ancestry.com, and also from the book Van Deursen Family by Albert H. Van Deusen.
The area which was the home of the Van Deursen family is a small village called Deurne in The Netherlands, a province of Brabant commonly called North Brabant. The area was named by the Romans for the large moor as Palus (moor) from which the name "Peel land" is derived.
After the Roman Empire fell apart, the Franks conqured the country in the fifth century. The nobility in this region (family Deursen included) had pure Germanic, Frankish roots. In the Carolingian times (800 A.D.), this area was a part of the jurisdictional region known as "Toxandria". This later became the dukedom of Brabant. The Carolingian Empire collapsed in about 900 A.D. and the area was then ruled by more independant lords who united under the feudal system.
There is a high probability that Hendrick Van Doersen was in the third crusade in 1196 and that he is the one who adopted the cross in the Coat-of-Arms.
During the Thirteenth century, the lords Van Deursen were found in the "meyery van's Hertogen-bosch" (the majorate of Bois-le-Duc) which is the area of Brabant where Deursen lies. They kept a sovereign independancy until the year 1325.
On the 1st of March, 1325 (according to old frankish custom), Govert Van Doorsen acknowledged for his liegelord Jan III, the noblest duke Brabant ever had, who had a differing view of human rights of the times and an advanced view of governing, granted on his deceased father's and his own initiative, a liberal charter to his subjects. The charter served the Dutch as a model in 1581, when they began their struggle for freedom more systematically. It was noted as "a cornerstone in the bulwark of Dutch liberty," and as such a place in the constitutional history of Western Europe affecting the rights of man all over the world.
Under Jan the Third's daughter, Duchess Johanna (died Dec, 1406), Jan Van Deursen (possibly grandson or great-grandson of Govert) became lord of Deursen. From this time there is no break in the family line to Abraham Pietersen, then to the American posterity.
This is the bloodline presented:
Jan Van Deursen
Born: 1367 Died: after 1397
Married: Aleid Van Bloemensweerde (b:1371 d:after 1397)
Jan Van Deursen
Born: 1393 Died: 1423-1484
Married: Aleid Van Dompselaer (b:1397 d: 1423-1491)
Jan Van Deursen
Born: 1419 Died: 1449-1510
Married: Wilhemina VanZoudenbalg (b:1423 d: 1449-1517)
Nicholas Van Deursen
Born:1445 Died: 1475-1536
Married: Machteld Proeys (b:1449 d: 1475-1543)
Jan Willem Van Deursen
Born:1471 Died: after 1497
Married: A daughter of Gerrit Van Heusden
Jan Van Deursen
The last male decendant of Govert Van Doorsen to hold the ancestral seat, the land and castle of Duersen. His Mother and wife were both from the renowned 'house of Heusden', and so he took the 'wheel of Heusden' into his Coat-of-Arms.
Born:1497 at Old Castle, Asperen, Zuid Holland, Netherlands
Died: after 1550
Married: Elizabeth Van Heusden (b:1501 d:after 1520)
Hendrick Van Deursen
Hendrick went back to the original Coat-of-Arms (pictured above) instead of adopting the one modified by his father. After the Spanish took control of The Netherlands, Hendrick left North Brabant for Asperen, where he became 'drossaert' (head-magistrate)of Asperen. About 1555, Philip suceeded his father as King of Spain, Prince of all The Netherland, and Duke of North Brabant. Then, most probably, the King of Spain appointed the Lord of Deursen. In 1559 the jurisdiction became a high criminal court as the number of criminals increased after the Spanish got a foothold. Philip died in 1599 and Prince Maurice of Orange won the great battle of Nieupoort in 1600. The victorious States of the Netherlands owned Brabant as a conquered province at the start of the 17th century.
Born: 1520-1523 Died: 1567 at Asperen, Holland
Married: Maria Rutgers (b: abt 1527 at Asperem, Aaabrabant, Belgium d:)
Willem Van Deursen
Born: Died: after 1575
Married: Elisabeth Gysberts (b: d:after 1575)
Pieter Jans Van Deursen
Moved from Asperen to the Province Holland in 1581 became Magistrate in Haarlem in 1583.
Born: 1575(?) - Duersen(?), Netherlands Died: after 1607
Married: Maria Jans
Married: Paulina Vinke (Jan 15, 1590/91)
i Janneken Pieters Van Deursen (Bap. in The Netherlands Dec 15, 1591)
ii Mechelkin Pietersen Van Deursen (Bap. in The Netherlands Apr 3, 1594)
iii Johannes Pietersen Van Deursen (Bap. in The Netherlands Jan 21, 1595/6)
iv Abraham Pietersen Van Deursen (Bap. in The Netherlands Jul 8, 1598- Died 1598)
v Abraham Pieterson Van Deursen (Bap. in Haarlem, The Netherlands Nov 11, 1607)
vi Isaac Pietersen Van Deursen (Bap. in The Netherlands Jan 1, 1601/02)
vii Ideken Pieters Van Deursen (Bap. in The Netherlands Mar 17, 1604/05)
viii Sara Pieters Van Deursen (Bap. in The Netherlands May 7, 1608)
First Generation in America
Abraham Pietersen was the first ancester to come to America. Unfortunately, public records prior to 1640 were lost so many dates have been inferred from secondary records. He may have been in America as early as 1627(*). He was a miller working for the Dutch West Indies Company and came to "New Netherland" (America) to build windmills on what became known as Manhatten. He aparently travelled back to Haarlem where he married in 1629 (a documented event). He had been in Amsterdam in 1632 and had a son (Johannes) baptised in Haarlem in 1633 (the only reference to Johannes was found in the book by George Olin Zabriskie, noted below). He may have returned to America in the early 1630's to stay. He was in Albany N.Y. when he died in 1678.
Abraham negotiated the acquisition of Quetenesse Island from the Indians for the benefit of The Dutch West Indies Company in 1638. It is apparent that he had been in America long enough that he was able to learn enough of the language and ways of the American Indians to become a negotiator for the 'company'. Quetenesse Island is what the Dutch called Sloop's bay in the west passage of Narragansett bay off Rhode Island. Today it is known as Dutch Island.
Taking up residence in New Amsterdam, Abraham acquired land and houses. As a miller was a lucrative profession, he was able to buy houses which he then leveraged to make further acquisitions. Abraham also ran a tavern and an inn. Many customers of a mill would travel a great distance to have their grains ground. It was customary to wait for this to be done and a miller would then offer food and drink to his customers. Since beer was the drink of the times and a license was required to sell beer, many millers owned taverns. The next step would be to run an inn for those customers that required to stay overnight.
He was a contracted miller for the Dutch West India Company. But Abraham insisted it was his right to mill on a "first come, first served" basis. This caused some friction with the Commissary of the company, who in the heat of the argument accused Abraham of stealing from the company. Abraham immediately took the claim to court and although the accusation was unfounded, he was then required "in future wind and weather permitting to grind the Company's grain before that of private persons". This was during his first contract with the West India Company (before the court Jan. 25 and Feb. 2, 1646), his contract was renewed on Aug 23, 1648.
"Records of the Reformed Dutch Church in the City of New York Church Members' List" has an entry on page 505 of a Abraham Pieters, followed by Tryntie Melchiors. Although there is no year for this specific entry, it is probably about 1653-55.
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Family 1: Jeanne de Brabant Duchess of Brabant and Limbou, b. 24 JUN 1322 in Brussel, Hertogdom Brabant, België (Heiliges Römisches Reich) d. 1 NOV 1406 in Brussel, Hertogdom Brabant, België (Heiliges Römisches Reich)
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- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Govert Van Doorsen - birth: about 1340; Deurne, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands
Note: birth: about 1340; Deurne, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3244623324
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