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Joan de Bar Countess of Surrey
- Preferred Name: Joan de Bar Countess of Surrey[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]
- Alternate Name: de Warenne
- Gender: F
- FSID: G8QN-JFP
- Birth: Bar-le-Duc, Meuse, Argonne1295 in Bar-le-Duc, Meuse, Argonne/Lorraine, France at LATI: N8.75 LONG: E0.1667 with note: see marriage of parents
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Regent of Bar with note: All vital information and relationships match. ID numbers: LCTR-8FC and G8QN-JFP.
- Death: 31 AUG 1361 in France with note: All vital information and relationships match. ID numbers: LCTR-8FC and G8QN-JFP.
- Burial: OCT 1361 in Église collégiale Saint-Maxe, Bar-le-Duc, Meuse, Lorraine, Française at LATI: N8.75 LONG: E0.1667 with note: All vital information and relationships match. ID numbers: LCTR-8FC and G8QN-JFP.
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Countess of Bar-Le-Duc in Bar-le-Duc, Meuse, Lorraine, Française at LATI: N8.75 LONG: E0.1667 with note: All vital information and relationships match. ID numbers: LCTR-8FC and G8QN-JFP.
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Joan of Bar (died 1361) was a French-English noble. She acted as regent of the County of Bar from 1344 until 1353.
She was a daughter of Henry III, Count of Bar and Eleanor of England, and niece of Edward II of England. She was unhappily married to John de Warenne, 7th Earl of Surrey. In 1345, Joan became the regent of Bar for her great-nephew Robert.
Life
Joan lived in Conisbrough Castle for some time because her husband abandoned her.
On 25 May 1306, Joan was married to one of the leading nobles of England, John de Warenne, 7th Earl of Surrey, a "nasty, brutal man with scarcely one redeeming quality." She lived at the Warenne family estates, Conisbrough Castle and Sandal Castle, abandoned by her husband, who hated her and since 1313 had been trying to divorce her. In England, she was close to Isabella of France, her aunt by marriage (Isabella’s husband Edward II was Joan’s maternal uncle) who was about her same age, and spent time with her at court. She was probably close to her cousin Elizabeth de Clare, who left Joan an image of John the Baptist in her will.
After four unhappy years of marriage, Surrey alleged in 1313 that the union was unlawful because Joan was related to him in the third and fourth degree, and because he had been "precontracted" to Maud of Nerford, his longtime mistress and the mother of his children, before marrying Joan. Despite his claims, a divorce was never granted.
In 1345, Joan was invited by Philip VI of France to act as regent of the County of Bar.
In 1353, she returned to England. When John II of France was captured and imprisoned in London, she was allowed to visit him and is said to have become his mistress.
Joan died in 1361 in London.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Bar,_Countess_of_Surrey
=== Ancestral File Number: 8Q7W-SC ===
Ancestral File Number: 8Q7W-SC
=== THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 ===
THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 D2T) P.97; SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.27, 48; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
=== per THE ROYAL DESCENTS OF 500 IMMIGRANTS ===
per THE ROYAL DESCENTS OF 500 IMMIGRANTS by Gary Boyd Roberts
Family 1: John de Warrene, b. 30 JUN 1286 in Sussex, England d. 30 JUN 1347 in Sussex, England
- m. 25 MAY 1306 in Palace of Westminster, Westminster, Middlesex, England
- m. in , Surrey County, England
Sources:
- Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt
Author: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, XII/1:511.
Note: [PFT:AQ]
[S:Titl] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt
[Page] XII/1:511
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- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Joan Bar -
Author: Ancestral File, website: www.familysearch.org
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3244547873
- Title: Roots Web World Connect Project
Author: Roots Web World Connect Project, database: genealoge.
- Title: Jeanne de Bar, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK18-GQ1R : 12 May 2022), Jeanne de Bar, ; Burial, Bar-le-Duc, Departement de la Meuse, Lorraine, France, Eglise collégiale Saint-Maxe; citing record ID 138366124, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK18-GQ1R;
- Title: Joan de Bar at Wikipedia
Author: Wikpedia
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Bar,_Countess_of_Surrey;
Note: Short biography
- Title: Joan Warren (born De Post), 'MyHeritage Family Trees'
Author: MyHeritage Family Trees MyHeritage.com [online database], MyHeritage Ltd. Family site (BackupMyTree), managed by robert dodd
Publication: Name: https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-195953291-65-8018/joan-warren-born-de-post-in-myheritage-family-trees;
Note: Joan Warren (born De Post)
Birth: Circa 1370 - Poynton Cheshire
Parents: Hugh De Post, Unknown De Post
Husband: John Warren
Son: Edward Warren
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Joanna de Bar - Individual or family possessions: birth-name: Joanna de Bar
Note: Individual or family possessions: birth-name: Joanna de Bar
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3244662375
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