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John De Strathbogie 9th Earl of Atholl
- Preferred Name: John De Strathbogie 9th Earl of Atholl[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]
- Alternate Name: John Earl
- Gender: M
- Burial: 15 NOV 1306 in London, Middlesex, England
- Death: 7 NOV 1306 in London, Middlesex, England
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- Execution: 7 NOV 1306 in London, England with note: Description: hanged, executed by King Edward I
- Birth: 1266 in Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland at LATI: N6.8167 LONG: E4 with note: Date
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
John of Strathbogie, 9th Earl of Atholl
John of Strathbogie was the son of David of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (d. 1270), and his 2nd wife Isabella Chilham, daughter of Richard de Chilham, Baron of Chilham, and his wife Roesia of Dover. John was born around 1266 in Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland.
In 1270, when John was still but a small child, his father David joined King Louis IX of France on the 8th Crusade and died of plague in Carthage on August 6th. Only about 4 years old, John became the 9th Earl of Atholl.
In November of 1270 his mother Isabella remarried to Alexander Baliol of Cavers. Isabella and John's step-father had 2 additional children, John's 1/2 brothers: Thomas Balliol, Lord of Cavers and Alexander Balliol.
In 1286, John was contracted to marry a daughter of Sir William Soulis, but it does not appear the marriage ever took place. At some unknown date after that John did marry Margaret of Mar, the younger sister of Isabel of Mar 1st wife of Robert the Bruce. This is significant because it made John and the future King of Scotland in-laws.
John and Margaret had 3 children:
- David of Strathbogie and of Chilham, 10th Earl of Atholl (d. 28 December 1326)
- Sir John de Strathbogie, Knight.
- Isabel de Strathbogie, wife or mistress of Edward de Brus, Earl of Carrick.
John de Strathbogie held estates in both Scotland and England which divided his loyalties at times. He also had strong family ties to the Balliols, the Comyns, and the Bruces. Not only was John's wife's sister a Bruce by marriage but eventually his daughter had a son with Edward Bruce, Earl of Carrick and High King of Ireland, the younger brother of Robert the Bruce.
In 1284 John was among the Scottish nobles that acknowledged Margaret, Maid of Norway, as the heir of King Alexander III.
After the death of the Maid of Norway in 1290, the throne of Scotland was in dispute, the primary contenders were the Balliols and the Bruces. In 1292, the English King Edward I awarded the throne to John Balliol, the cousin of John de Strathbogie's 1/2 brothers. The Bruces were not happy and never accepted the decision.
For the most part King John I was considered a puppet king for English King Edward I. When Edward I demanded military support from Scotland in his war with France, Scotland rebelled and instead formed an alliance with France. Edward I retaliated by attacking Scotland, the War for Scottish Independence had begun.
John de Strathbogie, was firmly on the Scottish side of things. On 27 April 1296 John fought for Scotland in the Battle of Dunbar. It was a tremendous English victory and resulted in many Scottish nobles being taken prisoner and held for ransom.
John de Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl was one of those captured.
He was imprisoned in the Tower of London for a year and released July 31 1297 with the pledge to serve King Edward I in Flanders against the French.
John remained in in England and made peace with the English king. In 1305, he was confirmed as his mother's heir (she had died in 1292) in the manor of Lesnes in Kent, and did homage to King Edward I.
By 1306, however, he had joined Robert the Bruce and the Scottish uprising and took part in Robert's coronation on 25 March 1306.
John fought for Scotland in the Battle of Methven on 19 June 1306, and was part of the phalanx of knights that rescued King Robert, helping him escape capture. While he helped King Robert escape, John de Strathbogie himself was captured and again sent to the Tower of London. His lands were forfeited and in October 1306 King Edward conferred the earldom of Atholl, and the Bruce lands of the Annandale in Scotland, upon Ralph de Monthermer, his son in law.
On 7 November 1306, John de Strathbogie, 9th Earl of Atholl was executed in London. A special gallows was erected only for him, it was 30 feet higher normal. He was of royal ancestry, one of the last descendants of King John of England, and an Earl. The higher gallows were to signify his higher status than his fellow prisoners: no earl had been executed in England for 230 years. John was then beheaded, his body burned and his head mounted on a spike on London Bridge (it eventually rotted and fell into the Thames).
John was succeeded by his oldest son Sir David de Strathbogie, and the earldom and Scottish estates were restored to him in 1307.
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DAVID of Strathbogie (-Carthage 6 Aug 1270, bur Scotland). He succeeded his father in [1260] as Earl of Atholl. m firstly HELEN, daughter of ---.
m secondly ISABEL of Chilham, daughter of RICHARD Lord of Chilham & his wife Matilda Ctss of Angus (after 1245-18 Mar 1292). She was heiress of her brother at Chilham. She married secondly (after 7 Nov 1270) Alexander Balliol of Cavers, co Roxburgh.
Earl David & his second wife had one child:
a) JOHN of Strathbogie (-executed London 7 Nov 1306). He succeeded his father in 1270 as Earl of Atholl. He swore fealty to Edward I King of England in 1292 but fought for the Scots when they were defeated at Dunbar 28 Apr 1296 and taken prisoner to London. He was released 31 Jul 1297. He became a staunch supporter of Robert Bruce, who was his wife's brother-in-law. He was taken prisoner again when the English invaded Scotland in 1306 and taken to London again where he was executed. His titles were forfeited[225]. m MARGARET of Mar, daughter of DONALD Earl of Mar & his wife Helen [of North Wales] (-after [13 Dec 1309?]). A charter dated 3 Sep 1296 records petitions to King Edward I by women whose estates had been seized in Scotland, including an order of restoration of property to "la contesse de Atheles"[226]. “Marioria relicta quondam domini Johannis comitis de Atholie et domina de Stratalueth” donated property to Coupar-Angus, with the consent of “domini David filii mei primogeniti et heredis”, for the souls of “quondam dicti domini Johannis mariti mei et...quondam domini Douenaldi patris mei”, by charter dated late-Jan 1314 (O.S.?) [date incorrect, confirmed by Pope Clement V 13 Dec 1309], confirmed by “Thomas comes de Mar et dominus de Strataluethe” by charter dated 19 Mar 1314 (O.S.?) [date incorrect, [1362/71]][227]. "Gilbertus de Haia constabularius Scotie" confirmed donations to Cupar abbey, including the donation made by "Mariore comitisse Atholie, relicte quondam Johannis comitis Atholie et confirmatione David filii sui primogeniti et heredis", by charter dated 5 Oct 1309[228].
Earl John & his wife had three children:
i) DAVID of Strathbogie and of Chilham, Kent (-28 Dec 1326). "Gilbertus de Haia constabularius Scotie" confirmed donations to Cupar abbey, including the donation made by "Mariore comitisse Atholie, relicte quondam Johannis comitis Atholie et confirmatione David filii sui primogeniti et heredis", by charter dated 5 Oct 1309[229]. He was restored as Earl of Atholl [21 Aug 1307/20 May 1308].
- see below.
ii) JOHN (-after 1316). Malise Earl of Strathearn and John de Inchmartyn were ordered to produce "Andrew son of the Steward of Scotland and John son of John Earl of Athol" by charter dated 25 Aug 1306[230].
iii) ISABEL . Mistress of EDWARD Bruce, son of ROBERT Bruce Earl of Carrick & his first wife Margaret Ctss of Carrick (-killed in battle Dundalk 14 Oct 1318). He was created Earl of Carrick shortly before 24 Oct 1313 by his brother.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#JohnStrathbogieAtholldied1260B
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John of Strathbogie (c. 1266 – 7 November 1306) was warden and Justiciary of Scotland.
Early years and family
John was born in Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland around 1266. He was the son of David I Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (d. 1270), by his spouse Isabel, daughter of Richard de Dover, Baron of Chilham, Kent. John de Strathbogie first appears on record as his father's son and heir in 1282. He was a great-great-grandson of King John of England through an illegitimate line. Descendants of King John are shown below:
King John of England + Adela de Warenne (Concubine)
Richard FitzRoy
Richard de Dover, Lord of Chilham
Isabel de Dover
John Strathbogie, 9th Earl of Atholl
Life and military service
In 1284, he joined with other Scottish noblemen who acknowledged Margaret, Maid of Norway, as the heir presumptive to King Alexander III. In 1296, he fought on the Scottish side at the Battle of Dunbar, where he was captured and sent to the Tower of London. After a year's confinement there he was set free on condition that he served King Edward I of England in Flanders.
He did homage for his manor of Lesnes, Kent, in 1305 but subsequently returned to Scotland, and in 1306 joined Robert the Bruce in his rising against English overlordship, and his English possessions were forfeited. He took part in Robert's coronation in that year.
Execution
In the subsequent English invasion of Scotland in 1306, he was taken prisoner at the Battle of Methven. John, Earl of Atholl, was hanged in London on 7 November 1306, on a gallows 30 feet higher than ordinary. This was to signify his higher status than his fellow prisoners: no earl had been executed in England for 230 years. His body was burnt and his head fixed on London Bridge.
Marriage and children
John married Marjory (also known as Margaret), daughter of Donald, 6th Earl of Mar. They had two sons and a daughter:
David de Strathbogie, 10th Earl of Atholl (d. 28 December 1326)
Sir John de Strathbogie, Knight.
Isabel, wife or mistress of Edward de Brus, Earl of Carrick.
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=== John of Strathbogie, 9th Earl of Atholl; ===
John of Strathbogie, 9th Earl of Atholl; one of the Scottish magnates who recognised Margaret, The Maid of Norway, as heir to the Scottish Crown 5 Feb 1283/4; swore fealty to Edward I of England 1292; nevertheless fought in the Scottish army against the English at defeat by latter of Scots at Dunbar 28 April 1296 and was held prisoner in the Tower of London 1296-31 July 1297; married as her 1st husband Margaret, daughter of 6th Earl of Mar, and having been captured again by the English after the Battle of Methven 19 June 1306 was beheaded in London 7 Nov 1306 and stripped of his title and lands (including Chilham). [Burke's Peerage]
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John of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl
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John of Strathbogie (c. 1266 - 7 November 1306)[1] was warden and Justiciary of Scotland.
Contents [hide]
1 Early years and family
2 Life and military service
3 Execution
4 Marriage and children
5 References
Early years and family[edit]
John was born in Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland around 1266.[1] He was the son of David I Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (d. 1270), by his spouse Isabel, daughter of Richard de Dover, Baron of Chilham, Kent. John de Strathbogie first appears on record as his father's son and heir in 1282. He was a great-great-grandson of King John of England.
Life and military service[edit]
In 1284, he joined with other Scottish noblemen who acknowledged Margaret of Norway as the heir to King Alexander.[2] In 1296, he fought on the Scottish side at the Battle of Dunbar, where he was captured and sent to the Tower of London. After a year's confinement there he was set free on condition that he served King Edward I of England in Flanders.
He did homage for his manor of Lesnes, Kent, in 1305 but subsequently returned to Scotland, and in 1306 joined Robert the Bruce in his rebellion against English overlordship, and his English possessions were forfeited. He took part in the coronation of The Bruce in that year.
Execution[edit]
In the subsequent English invasion of Scotland in 1306, he was taken prisoner at the Battle of Methven. John, Earl of Atholl, was hanged in London, Middlesex, England on 7 November 1306, on a gallows 30 feet higher than ordinary. This was to signify his higher status than his fellow prisoners, no earl had been executed in England for 230 years. His body was burnt and his head fixed on London Bridge.[3]
Marriage and children[edit]
John married Marjory (also known as Margaret),[3] daughter of Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.[3] They had two sons and a daughter:
David de Strathbogie, 10th Earl of Atholl (d. 28 December 1326)[3]
Sir John de Strathbogie, Knight.
Isabel, wife or mistress of Edward de Brus, Earl of Carrick.
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=== John of Strathbogie, 9th Earl of Atholl; ===
John of Strathbogie, 9th Earl of Atholl; one of the Scottish magnates who recognised Margaret, The Maid of Norway, as heir to the Scottish Crown 5 Feb 1283/4; swore fealty to Edward I of England 1292; nevertheless fought in the Scottish army against the English at defeat by latter of Scots at Dunbar 28 April 1296 and was held prisoner in the Tower of London 1296-31 July 1297; married as her 1st husband Margaret, daughter of 6th Earl of Mar, and having been captured again by the English after the Battle of Methven 19 June 1306 was beheaded in London 7 Nov 1306 and stripped of his title and lands (including Chilham). [Burke's Peerage]
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JOHN (OF STRATHBOGIE), EARL OF ATHOLL [Scotland], son and heir by 2nd wife. He was one of the Nobles who, 5 Fcbrmacry 1283/4, acknowledged Margaret, Maid of Norway, as their Sovereign. In 1292 he swore fealty to Edward I, but fought on the side of the Scots in their defeat at Dunbar, 28 April 1296, and was take prisoner to London, the order for his release from the Tower being dated 31 July 1297. Having married Margaret, daughter of Donald, EARL OF MAR, by Helen, daughter of Llewellyn, PRINCE OF NORTH WALES, and sister to the 1st wife of King, Robert Bruce, he became a staunch adherent of Bruce, at whose coronation he assisted, 27 March 1306. In the English invasion of Scotland that followed, the Earl was taken prisoner to London, executed 7 November 1306 (his body burnt and his head fixed on London Bridge), and his title forfeited. [Complete Peerage I:306]
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Family 1: Margaret de Mar, b. MAR 1270 in Kildrummy Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland d. 24 JUL 1326 in Dunrobin Castle,Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland
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Individual or family possessions: birth: about 1265; Strathbogie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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John of Strathbogie (executed November 7, 1306) was warden and Justiciary of Scotland. The son of David I Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (d. 1270), by his spouse Isabel, daughter of Richard de Dover, Baron of Chilham, Kent, John de Strathbogie first appears on record as his father's son and heir in 1282. In 1284 he joined with other Scottish noblemen who acknowledged Margaret of Norway as their sovereign. In 1296 he fought on the Scottish side at the Battle of Dunbar, where he was captured and sent to the Tower of London. After a year's confinement there he was set free on condition that he served King Edward I of England in Flanders. He did homage for his manor of Lesnes, Kent, in 1305 but subsequently returned to Scotland, and in 1306 joined Robert the Bruce in his rebellion against English overlordship, and his English possessions were forfeited. He took part in the coronation of The Bruce in that year. In the subsequent English invasion of Scotland he was taken prisoner at the Battle of Methven. John, Earl of Atholl, was hanged at London on November 7, 1306, on a gallows 30 feet higher than ordinary. His body was burnt and his head fixed on London Bridge. The earl married Marjory, daughter of Donald, 10th Earl of Mar. They had two sons and a daughter:
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- Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy -JOHN of Strathbogie Earl of Atholl
Author: [216] Skene, F. J. H. (ed.) (1877) Liber Pluscardensis, Historians of Scotland Vol. VII (Edinburgh), Vol. I, Liber VII, CXXV, p. 100. [217] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 87, p. 348. [218] CP I 305. [219] Liber Pluscardensis, Vol. I, Liber VII, CXXVII, p. 104. [220] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XXVI-XXVII, pp. 111-2. [221] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 87, p. 348. [222] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 192, p. 60. [223] Toulmin Smith, L. (ed.) (1910) The Itinerary of John Leland in or about the years 1535-1543 (London) ("Leland’s Itinerary"), Vol. V, Part XI, p. 210, Ex annalibus, autore incerto. [224] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 591, p. 140.
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Note: DAVID of Strathbogie (-Carthage 6 Aug 1270, bur Scotland). He succeeded his father in [1260] as Earl of Atholl. The Liber Pluscardensis records that "Alexander David comitem Atholiæ" was knighted "die natalis Domini" in 1264[216]. "David de Strathbolgy comes Atholiæ" confirmed the donation of "terra de Dunfolemthim" to Cupar abbey made by "Nessus medicus domini regis" [see above], for the souls of "Domini David de Hastings quondam comitis Atholiæ et Forflissæ comitissæ suæ et Elenæ quondam sponsæ nostræ", by undated charter witnessed by "…Domino Alano Hostiario…Domino Thoma Hostiario…"[217]. He took part in the Seventh Crusade with Louis IX King of France, during the course of which he died[218]. The Liber Pluscardensis records the death, dated to [1267] from the context, "apud Cortage" of "David comes Atholiæ"[219]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death "VIII Id Aug, in Carthagine" in 1270 of "David comes de Atholia", adding in a later passage that his bones were returned to Scotland[220]. m firstly HELEN, daughter of ---. "David de Strathbolgy comes Atholiæ" confirmed the donation of "terra de Dunfolemthim" to Cupar abbey made by "Nessus medicus domini regis" [see above], for the souls of "Domini David de Hastings quondam comitis Atholiæ et Forflissæ comitissæ suæ et Elenæ quondam sponsæ nostræ", by undated charter witnessed by "…Domino Alano Hostiario…Domino Thoma Hostiario…"[221]. m secondly ISABEL of Chilham, daughter of RICHARD Lord of Chilham & his wife Matilda Ctss of Angus (after 1245-18 Mar 1292). She was heiress of her brother at Chilham. She married secondly (after 7 Nov 1270) Alexander Balliol of Cavers, co Roxburgh. "Alexander de Balliol and Isabella his wife…going to Scotland" appointed attorneys for their affairs in England[222]. Leland quotes a manuscript which records the death "XV Kal Apr…apud Chilham" in 1292 of "Domina Isabella de Dovora comitissa de Assele" and her burial "Cantuar: in ecclesia Christi"[223]. A charter dated 1 May 1292 ordered the valuation of the assets of "the late Isabella countess of Athol to her husband Alexander de Balliol"[224]. Earl David & his second wife had one child:
a) JOHN of Strathbogie (-executed London 7 Nov 1306). He succeeded his father in 1270 as Earl of Atholl. He swore fealty to Edward I King of England in 1292 but fought for the Scots when they were defeated at Dunbar 28 Apr 1296 and taken prisoner to London. He was released 31 Jul 1297. He became a staunch supporter of Robert Bruce, who was his wife's brother-in-law. He was taken prisoner again when the English invaded Scotland in 1306 and taken to London again where he was executed. His titles were forfeited[225]. m MARGARET of Mar, daughter of DONALD Earl of Mar & his wife Helen [of North Wales] (-after 1306). A charter dated 3 Sep 1296 records petitions to King Edward I by women whose estates had been seized in Scotland, including an order of restoration of property to "la contesse de Atheles"[226]. "Gilbertus de Haia constabularius Scotie" confirmed donations to Cupar abbey, including the donation made by "Mariore comitisse Atholie, relicte quondam Johannis comitis Atholie et confirmatione David filii sui primogeniti et heredis", by charter dated 5 Oct 1309[227]. Earl John & his wife had three children:
i) DAVID of Strathbogie and of Chilham, Kent (-28 Dec 1326). "Gilbertus de Haia constabularius Scotie" confirmed donations to Cupar abbey, including the donation made by "Mariore comitisse Atholie, relicte quondam Johannis comitis Atholie et confirmatione David filii sui primogeniti et heredis", by charter dated 5 Oct 1309[228]. He was restored as Earl of Atholl [21 Aug 1307/20 May 1308].
- see below.
ii) JOHN (-after 1316). Malise Earl of Strathearn and John de Inchmartyn were ordered to produce "Andrew son of the Steward of Scotland and John son of John Earl of Athol" by charter dated 25 Aug 1306[229].
iii) ISABEL . Mistress of EDWARD Bruce, son of ROBERT Bruce Earl of Carrick & his first wife Margaret Ctss of Carrick (-killed in battle Dundalk 14 Oct 1318). He was created Earl of Carrick shortly before 24 Oct 1313 by his brother.
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Note: Atholl or Athole (Scottish Gaelic: Athall; Old Gaelic Athfhotla) is a large historical division in the Scottish Highlands, bordering (in anti-clockwise order, from Northeast) Marr, Badenoch, Lochaber, Breadalbane, Strathearn, Perth, and Gowrie. Historically it was a Pictish kingdom, becoming one of the original provinces of the Kingdom of Alba before being incorporated into the sheriffdom and later county of Perthshire. Today it forms the northern part of Perth and Kinross, Scotland.[1]
In Scottish Gaelic the name is Athall, which traditionally has been interpreted as deriving from the Old Irish Ath-fhotla, or 'New Ireland' (Fotla being a traditional name for Ireland). The explanation given for this relates to a conjectured Gaelic settlement of Scotland, which was previously inhabited by the Picts.
The first documented record of Atholl is an 8th-century mention in the Annals of Ulster,[3] but three placenames in Atholl – the town of Dunkeld and the mountains Schiehallion and Rohallion – preserve the name of the Caledonians, a tribe or tribal confederation recorded by Roman writers including Tacitus and Cassius Dio.[4]
Province and earldom
Atholl emerged as one of the core provinces of the early Kingdom of Alba.[7] The first known Mormaer of Atholl was Dubdon of Atholl, recorded in the Chronicle of the Kings of Alba as having been killed during the battle between King Dub and his challenger Cuilén at Dorsum Crup in 965.[8]
The first recorded Earl of Atholl was Matad, Earl of Atholl sometime in the 12th century. In 1703 the title was made a Dukedom by Queen Anne. The title also holds numerous subsidiary titles. These include: Marquess of Atholl (created 1676), Marquess of Tullibardine (1703), Earl of Atholl (1629), Earl of Tullibardine (1606 and 1676), Earl of Strathtay and Strathardle (1703), Viscount of Balquhidder (1676), Lord Murray of Tullibardine (1604), Lord Murray, Balvenie and Gask (1676) and Baron Percy (1722). The Barony of Percy forms part of the peerage of Great Britain; all other titles belong in the peerage of Scotland.
The right of the Earls of Atholl to hold courts for the area were ended in 1746 by the Heritable Jurisdictions Act, and the province was subsequently only subject to the jurisdiction of the sheriff of Perth. In the mid 19th century, local government reforms replaced the ancient provinces by new Counties (shires), aligned to sheriffdom boundaries; hence, Atholl formed the northern portion of the new Perthshire.
Towns and villages in Atholl include Aberfeldy, Ballinluig, Blair Atholl, Dunkeld, Kirkmichael, Logierait, Pitlochry and Weem.
- Title: Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors
Author: Citations: 1. [S275] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. XII/1, p. 541; Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 2332. 2. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 50. 3. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 523-524. 4. [S6] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vo. I, p. 136. 5. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 189. 6. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 598-599. 7. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 150. 8. [S6] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vo. I, p. 134-135. 9. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 187-188. 10. [S11563] The Scots Peerage, Vol. I, edited by Sir James Balfour Paul, p. 427-428. 11. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 294.
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p388.htm#i11636;
Note: John de Strathbogie, 9th Earl Atholl, Sheriff of Aberdeen, Warden & Justiciar of Scotland [1,2,3,4,5,6,7]
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M, #11636, d. 7 November 1306
Father David de Strathbogie, 8th Earl Atholl, Lord Chilham Manor [8,9] d. 6 Aug 1270
Mother Isabel de Chilham [8,9] d. 18 Mar 1292
John de Strathbogie, 9th Earl Atholl, Sheriff of Aberdeen, Warden & Justiciar of Scotland married Marjorie (Margaret) of Mar, daughter of Donald, 6th Earl of Mar and Helen; They had 2 sons (Sir David, 10th Earl of Atholl; and Sir John) and 1 daughter (Isabel, wife of Sir Edward de Brus, King of Ireland, Earl of Carrick, Lord Galloway). [2,3,4,6] John de Strathbogie, 9th Earl Atholl, Sheriff of Aberdeen, Warden & Justiciar of Scotland died on 7 November 1306 at London, Middlesex, England; Hanged on a gallows 30 feet higher than ordinary. His body was then burned and his head fixed on London Bridge. [2,4,5]
Family: Marjorie (Margaret) of Mar d. c 7 Nov 1306
Children:
Sir John of Hastings d. a 1331
Isabel de Strathbogie+ [10,11,3,5,6,7] d. b 1 Jun 1317
Sir David de Strathbogie, 10th Earl Atholl, 1st Lord Strathbogie, Constable of Scotland+ [2,4,5] d. 28 Dec 1326
- Title: Wikipedia -John of Strathbogie, 9th Earl of Atholl
Author: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Strathbogie,_9th_Earl_of_Atholl
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Strathbogie,_9th_Earl_of_Atholl#Marriage_and_children;
Note: John of Strathbogie (c. 1266 – 7 November 1306)[1] was warden and Justiciary of Scotland.
Early years and family
John was born in Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland around 1266.[1] He was the son of David I Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (d. 1270), by his spouse Isabel, daughter of Richard de Dover, Baron of Chilham, Kent. John de Strathbogie first appears on record as his father's son and heir in 1282. He was a great-great-grandson of King John of England.
Life and military service
In 1284, he joined with other Scottish noblemen who acknowledged Margaret of Norway as the heir to King Alexander.[2] In 1296, he fought on the Scottish side at the Battle of Dunbar, where he was captured and sent to the Tower of London. After a year's confinement there he was set free on condition that he served King Edward I of England in Flanders.
He did homage for his manor of Lesnes, Kent, in 1305 but subsequently returned to Scotland, and in 1306 joined Robert the Bruce in his rebellion against English overlordship, and his English possessions were forfeited. He took part in the coronation of The Bruce in that year.
Execution
In the subsequent English invasion of Scotland in 1306, he was taken prisoner at the Battle of Methven. John, Earl of Atholl, was hanged in London, Middlesex, England on 7 November 1306, on a gallows 30 feet higher than ordinary. This was to signify his higher status than his fellow prisoners, no earl had been executed in England for 230 years. His body was burnt and his head fixed on London Bridge.[3]
Marriage and children
John married Marjory (also known as Margaret),[3] daughter of Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.[3] They had two sons and a daughter:
David de Strathbogie, 10th Earl of Atholl (d. 28 December 1326)[3]
Sir John de Strathbogie, Knight.
Isabel, wife or mistress of Edward de Brus, Earl of Carrick.
- Title: Wikipedia - Earls of Atholl
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Atholl;
Note: The Mormaer or Earl of Atholl was the title of the holder of a medieval comital lordship straddling the highland province of Atholl (Ath Fodhla), now in northern Perthshire. Atholl is a special Mormaerdom, because a King of Atholl is reported from the Pictish period. The only other two Pictish kingdoms to be known from contemporary sources are Fortriu and Circinn. Indeed, the early 13th century document known to modern scholars as the de Situ Albanie repeats the claim that Atholl was an ancient Pictish kingdom. In the 11th century, the famous Crínán of Dunkeld may have performed the role of Mormaer.
Royal connections continued with Máel Muire, who was the son of King Donnchad I, and the younger brother of Máel Coluim III mac Donnchada. Matad was perhaps the most famous of the Mormaers, fathering Harald Maddadsson, a notorious rebel of the Scottish King and perhaps the first Gael to rule Orkney as Earl of Orkney. The line of Máel Muire and Crínán came to an end when Forbhlaith, the daughter of Mormaer Henry married David de Hastings.
The latter marriage produced a daughter, Ada, who married into the Strathbogie family, a semi-Normanized Gaelic family with Fife origins. The Strathbogies ruled until the Wars of Independence, when the Campells took over. It finally passed to the Stewarts.
Early Mormaers/Earls of Atholl
Dubdon (fl. 960s)
Duncan II MacDonachadh 970s – 1010[citation needed]
Crínán? (died 1045)
?
Máel Muire, Earl of Atholl (fl. 1130s), son of Duncan I of Scotland
Matad, Earl of Atholl (died 1151x1161), son of Máel Muire of Scotland
Máel Coluim, Earl of Atholl (died 1190s), son of Matad, Earl of Atholl
Henry, Earl of Atholl (died 1211) son of Máel Coluim, Earl of Atholl
Isabella, Countess of Atholl
m. Thomas of Galloway (died 1232)
m. (?) Alan Durward
Padraig, Earl of Atholl (died 1241)
Forbhlaith, Countess of Atholl
m. David de Hastings
Ada, Countess of Atholl (died 1264) m. John de Strathbogie
David de Strathbogie, 8th Earl of Atholl (died 1270)
John de Strathbogie, 9th Earl of Atholl (died 1306)
David II Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (died 1326) (forfeited)
After David II, two of others of his name claimed the lordship, though neither exercised it:
David III Strathbogie, titular Earl of Atholl (died 1335)
David IV Strathbogie, titular Earl of Atholl (died 1369)
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir John de Strathbogie 9th Earl of Atholl -
Author: Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom; GE Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, Page number: I:306
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