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Robert Lawrence III
- Preferred Name: Robert Lawrence III
- Gender: M
- FSID: G3Z4-9NG
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: Baron
- Death: 1216 in Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England at LATI: N3.4877 LONG: E2.0969 with note: GEDCOM data
- Birth: 1125 in Ashton Hall, Lancashire, England at LATI: N4 LONG: E2.8167 with note: Standardized
- Occupation: Silversmith in Worked for the resident Lord of Lancaster Castle, Lancashire, England
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Robert Lawrence
Suffix: Sir, Of Ashton Hall
Birth: Abt 1125; Death: Y
Note:
Robert, was a silversmith and worked for the resident Lord of Lancaster Castle. Lancaster Castle, built on the remains of three Roman forts, was first established in about the year 1100 A.D.Today it serves as a prison for Britain.
I am familiar with this lineage, thru the 8th generation. My wife & I spent a great deal of time in SLC researching the Lawrence family.Unfortunately, professional genealogists have debunked the whole thing (at least to the 8th generation here). They say that it was a forgery. It comes from an 1869 genealogy by John Lawrence , and also a book by H.G.
Somersby, who is accused by current professionals as having deliberatelywritten phony genealogies for wealthy clients. One later generation showsJohn Lawrence marrying Mary de Welles. I found no proof of the existence of Mary de Welles. I looked in some of the "Complete Peerage" volumes. Mary de Welles supposedly was a dau of Margaret de Mowbray. Gary Boyd Roberts told me that the Lawrence s had no Mowbray descent. He is the foremost expert on the Mowbrays. Professionals also say that our "SirRobert Lawrence of Ashton Hall" is purely fictional. There are fairly-recent articles that deal with this problem. David L. Green,publisher of "The American Genealogist" is working on a article about the Lawrence family, & it will be published (in the NYGBR) hopefully within the next year. The Lawrence line does have a royal descent (going back to Louis
IV, King of France) - see Gary Boyd Roberts' book "Royal Descents of 500 Colonists". Sorry to have to tell you all this. It was a great disappointment for us,
Children
Robert Lawrence b: Abt 1170 in Lancaster, Lancashire County, England
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Family 1: Pollyanna James, b. 1125 in Lancashire, England
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