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John Marshal, 1st Baron Marshal of Hingham
- Preferred Name: John Marshal, 1st Baron Marshal of Hingham
- Gender: M
- FSID: GQVB-HWY
- Death: 27 JUN 1235 in Hockering, Norfolk, England at LATI: N2.684 LONG: E0.0768
- Occupation: Sheriff of Lincolnshire1185
- Birth: ABT 1170 in Hingham, Norfolk, England at LATI: N2.5833 LONG: E0.9833
- Title (Nobility): from 1205 with note: Description: Marshal of Ireland
- Title (Nobility): 1215 with note: Description: 1st Baron of Hingham
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Baron
- Land: 1204 in Norfolk, England with note: Description: granted Caistor by the Sea, Norfolk and Cantley
- Occupation: Sheriff of Lincolnshire, Norfolk, Suffolk, & Hampshire, Keeper of Dorchester & Sherborne Castles31215 in Norfolk, England
- Notes:
=== The Complete Peerage GS 942 D22 cok Vol ===
The Complete Peerage GS 942 D22 cok Vol 10 Appendix G. An Account of the family of Rye by Walter Rye p. 245.
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO.68) P.35;
=== Sources: Complete Peerage of England, sc ===
Sources: Complete Peerage of England, scotland, Ireland, and Great Britan and the United Kingdom
by G.E.,Cokayne Sutton Puglishing Ltd.
1215 named in MAGNA CHARTA, King John Advisor
According to Cokayne, (p 525), "John Marshal, the founder of this family, owed his political advancement to his near relationship to William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, and his feudal positons to his marriage with Aline, eldest daughter and coheir, and afterwards sole heir, of Hubert IV de Rye, lord of the barony of Rye. John Marshal first appears on the page of history in 1197, as one of the Knights under command of William Marshal, sent by Richard I to assist the Counts of Flanders and Boulogne against France. In 1203 he was in Normandy with King John, and in the following year went to Ireland in the service of the Earl Marshal, while the Earl went to Normandy in the service of the King. On 12 Nov. 1207 he was made Marshal of Ireland, He accompanied King John on his Irish expedition, 1210. From 1213 to the end of the reigh he was constantly occupied in the King's service in England; in 1215 he was with King John at Runnymede, and one of those by whose advice the King gave his assent to Magna Carta; later in the year he was one of the embassy to the court of Rome. Returning, he accompanied the King on his march to the North, and attended him at his death at Newark, 19 Oct. 1216. Nine days later he was present at the Coronation of Henry II at Gloucester, and was a member of the council of his uncle, guardian of the young King. He was among the 'barons' in the Earl Marshal's forces in the relief of Lincoln Castle, From this time till his death he was continually occupied in the public service in England, Ireland, or abroad."
In the footnotes, Cokayne states that "William Marshal's elder brother John (whose heir he was) died in 1194, leaving a widow, daughter of Adam de Port. John is described in a charter of King John as nepes Willelmi Marescalle Comitis de de Penbroc. The very detailed biography of the Earl Marshal...makes no mention of a scecond brother John, and the Earl's nephew appears to have had no patrimony, it is therefore probable that he was an illegimate son of the Earl's elder brother".
=== !William Marshal Court, Career and Chiva ===
!William Marshal Court, Career and Chivalry in the Angevin Empire 1147-1219 by David Crouch p80,199; 9 Attestations. 4 (1189-99); 5 (1199-1219). Dated appearances in the Marshal's entourage: 1196, 1197, 1198, 1205, 1216, 1219. Illegitimate son of John Marshal (II). Nephew of the Marshal. With king in Normandy (1203), in Ireland on William Marshal's service (1204), with king at Woodstock and Tewkesbury (1207), Ireland (1210), Runnymede (1215), ambassador to Rome (1215), at Newark (1216), at battle of Lincoln (1217). Married (1199); Aline, heiress of Hubert (III) de Ryes, lord of honors of Ryes and Hockering. Marshal of Ireland (1207). Died 1235. Children: John; William; Held of king: Honor of Ryes in Normandy (1203-4); Honor of Hockering, Norf. (1200) by marriage, and other grants. Sources: references collected in Complete Peerage VIII 525-6; !#21-v8-p525-6;
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.49;
=== HINT: to family research.
. https://www.google.com/search?q=tintern%20Abbey%20genealogy%20of%20John%20Marshall%20born%201170%20ad%20of%20Tintern,%20Monmouthshire,%20Wales%201st%20Baron%20Marshal%20of%20Hingham%20married%20Aline%20De%20Rye ===
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm
=== The Complete Peerage GS 942 D22 cok Vol ===
The Complete Peerage GS 942 D22 cok Vol 10 Appendix G. An Account of the family of Rye by Walter Rye p. 245.
=== !William Marshal Court, Career and Chiva ===
!William Marshal Court, Career and Chivalry in the Angevin Empire 1147-1219 by David Crouch p80,199; 9 Attestations. 4 (1189-99); 5 (1199-1219). Dated appearances in the Marshal's entourage: 1196, 1197, 1198, 1205, 1216, 1219. Illegitimate son of John Marshal (II). Nephew of the Marshal. With king in Normandy (1203), in Ireland on William Marshal's service (1204), with king at Woodstock and Tewkesbury (1207), Ireland (1210), Runnymede (1215), ambassador to Rome (1215), at Newark (1216), at battle of Lincoln (1217). Married (1199); Aline, heiress of Hubert (III) de Ryes, lord of honors of Ryes and Hockering. Marshal of Ireland (1207). Died 1235. Children: John; William; Held of king: Honor of Ryes in Normandy (1203-4); Honor of Hockering, Norf. (1200) by marriage, and other grants. Sources: references collected in Complete Peerage VIII 525-6; !#21-v8-p525-6;
=== HINT: to family research.
. https://www.google.com/search?q=tintern%20Abbey%20genealogy%20of%20John%20Marshall%20born%201170%20ad%20of%20Tintern,%20Monmouthshire,%20Wales%201st%20Baron%20Marshal%20of%20Hingham%20married%20Aline%20De%20Rye ===
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO.68) P.35;
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.49;
=== Sources: Complete Peerage of England, sc ===
Sources: Complete Peerage of England, scotland, Ireland, and Great Britan and the United Kingdom
by G.E.,Cokayne Sutton Puglishing Ltd.
1215 named in MAGNA CHARTA, King John Advisor
According to Cokayne, (p 525), "John Marshal, the founder of this family, owed his political advancement to his near relationship to William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, and his feudal positons to his marriage with Aline, eldest daughter and coheir, and afterwards sole heir, of Hubert IV de Rye, lord of the barony of Rye. John Marshal first appears on the page of history in 1197, as one of the Knights under command of William Marshal, sent by Richard I to assist the Counts of Flanders and Boulogne against France. In 1203 he was in Normandy with King John, and in the following year went to Ireland in the service of the Earl Marshal, while the Earl went to Normandy in the service of the King. On 12 Nov. 1207 he was made Marshal of Ireland, He accompanied King John on his Irish expedition, 1210. From 1213 to the end of the reigh he was constantly occupied in the King's service in England; in 1215 he was with King John at Runnymede, and one of those by whose advice the King gave his assent to Magna Carta; later in the year he was one of the embassy to the court of Rome. Returning, he accompanied the King on his march to the North, and attended him at his death at Newark, 19 Oct. 1216. Nine days later he was present at the Coronation of Henry II at Gloucester, and was a member of the council of his uncle, guardian of the young King. He was among the 'barons' in the Earl Marshal's forces in the relief of Lincoln Castle, From this time till his death he was continually occupied in the public service in England, Ireland, or abroad."
In the footnotes, Cokayne states that "William Marshal's elder brother John (whose heir he was) died in 1194, leaving a widow, daughter of Adam de Port. John is described in a charter of King John as nepes Willelmi Marescalle Comitis de de Penbroc. The very detailed biography of the Earl Marshal...makes no mention of a scecond brother John, and the Earl's nephew appears to have had no patrimony, it is therefore probable that he was an illegimate son of the Earl's elder brother".
Preferred Parents:
Father: John Marshal, b. ABT 1144 in Great Bedwyn, Wiltshire, England d. MAR 1194 in Marlborough Castle, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England
Mother: Alice Port,
Family 1: Aline de Rie, b. 1185 in Hingham, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom d. SEP 1267 in Hockering, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom
- m. 1200 in Hingham, Norfolk, England
- Sibyl Marshal, b. ABT 1213 in Lenton, Lincolnshire, England d. ABT 1270 in Austria
- Walter Marshall, b. 1214 in Norfolk, England d. 1264 in Norfolk, England
- Alice Marshal, b. ABT 1215 in Hockering, Hingham, Norfolk, England d. 9 JUL 1271 in Carew Castle, Pembrokeshire, Wales
- William Marshal, b. 1214 in Hingham, Norfolk, England d. AUG 1265 in Gloucestershire, England
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