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Roger de St. John I
- Preferred Name: Roger de St. John I[1] [2] [3] [4]
- Alternate Name: Roger De Saint john
- Alternate Name: Roger St John
- Alternate Name: Roger De St John
- Alternate Name: Roger De St John
- Gender: M
- FSID: LZLH-LST
- Cartulary of Mont St Michel: 1121 with note: Description: Dispute between the monks at the Abbey and their neighbours Thomas de St John and his younger brothers John and Roger, of St Jean le Thomas
http://fmg.ac/phocadownload/userupload/scanned-sources/tgb/Vol16-PDFs/S-3919.pdf
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Roger-de-St-John/6000000007125735394?through=6000000007678081603
- Death: 1130 in Compton, Sussex, England at LATI: N0.9303 LONG: E0.9041
- Birth: ABT 1095 in St-Jean-le-Thomas, Manche, Normandy, France at LATI: N9.05 LONG: E0.25
- Grant to Lewes Priory of the church of Compton: BEF 1121 with note: http://fmg.ac/phocadownload/userupload/scanned-sources/tgb/Vol16-PDFs/S-3919.pdf
- John & Roger de St John with king Henry I in Normandy: 1119 with note: http://fmg.ac/phocadownload/userupload/scanned-sources/tgb/Vol16-PDFs/S-3919.pdf
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Roger de St. John, brother of Thomas. In July 1118 with his brother John, he defended the castle of La Motte-Gautier for Henry I against Fulk, Count of Anjou, but was forced to surrender. Before 1121 he gave the church of Compton in West Sussex to Lewes Priory. He m. Cecily, daughter of Robert de la Haie, by Muriel, probably daughter of Colswegen, tenant-in-chief in Lincs in 1086 with whom he received the honor of Halnaker in Sussex. Roger d. in or before 1130. His widow was living in 1162 and dead in 1177.
Besides his sons William and Robert, Roger de St. John had a daughter Muriel, who m. an Orval and was the mother of Mabel, wife of Adam de Port of Basing, through whom both St-Jean-le-Thomas and the manor of Halnaker passed to that family. [Complete Peerage XI:342]
=== !Plantagenet Ancestry ===
!Plantagenet Ancestry
=== !Cokayne's Peerage: IV: 335. Essex Insti ===
!Cokayne's Peerage: IV: 335. Essex Institute Proceedings: XVII: 16. Vivian's: Visitations of Cevon: 243-4.
=== !Name,child,Spouse-Visitation Bk Q area ===
!Name,child,Spouse-Visitation Bk Q area 942.25 D2b pg 61;Visitation Bk Q area Bk942.27 D23b pg 232 Dd-Submission from Brown from Oxford Hist Eng-Pitt 15:239,5:490 Name(Roger de St John,Father,daughter(Muriel)-Peerage & Baronetage by Burke pg 2203 Bap-SL Bap Rec FHL 183543 pg 1146;TIB Name,Bd(1098),Bpla(ST Jean le Thomas,Norm,France),Bap,End,Spouse-TIB FHL 884575 SP,SS-IGI Bd also listed as 1086,1098,1148;Bpla as Staunton,St John,Oxford;of Bassaleg,MM,Eng;St Jean le Thomas,Norm,France; dd aft 1121,aft 1169;parents as Wm de Berkerolles(KV22-BK) & Felice de Vera(KV22-HF);Md plas as Basseleg,MM
=== Life Sketch ===
Roger de St. John, brother of Thomas. In July 1118 with his brother John, he defended the castle of La Motte-Gautier for Henry I against Fulk, Count of Anjou, but was forced to surrender. Before 1121 he gave the church of Compton in West Sussex to Lewes Priory. He m. Cecily, daughter of Robert de la Haie, by Muriel, probably daughter of Colswegen, tenant-in-chief in Lincs in 1086 with whom he received the honor of Halnaker in Sussex. Roger d. in or before 1130. His widow was living in 1162 and dead in 1177.
Besides his sons William and Robert, Roger de St. John had a daughter Muriel, who m. an Orval and was the mother of Mabel, wife of Adam de Port of Basing, through whom both St-Jean-le-Thomas and the manor of Halnaker passed to that family. [Complete Peerage XI:342]
=== !Name,child,Spouse-Visitation Bk Q area ===
!Name,child,Spouse-Visitation Bk Q area 942.25 D2b pg 61;Visitation Bk Q area Bk942.27 D23b pg 232 Dd-Submission from Brown from Oxford Hist Eng-Pitt 15:239,5:490 Name(Roger de St John,Father,daughter(Muriel)-Peerage & Baronetage by Burke pg 2203 Bap-SL Bap Rec FHL 183543 pg 1146;TIB Name,Bd(1098),Bpla(ST Jean le Thomas,Norm,France),Bap,End,Spouse-TIB FHL 884575 SP,SS-IGI Bd also listed as 1086,1098,1148;Bpla as Staunton,St John,Oxford;of Bassaleg,MM,Eng;St Jean le Thomas,Norm,France; dd aft 1121,aft 1169;parents as Wm de Berkerolles(KV22-BK) & Felice de Vera(KV22-HF);Md plas as Basseleg,MM
=== !Plantagenet Ancestry ===
!Plantagenet Ancestry
=== !Cokayne's Peerage: IV: 335. Essex Insti ===
!Cokayne's Peerage: IV: 335. Essex Institute Proceedings: XVII: 16. Vivian's: Visitations of Cevon: 243-4.
Preferred Parents:
Father: John de St. John Seigneure de St.-Jean-le-Thomas, b. ABT 1066 in Normandy, France d. ABT 1110
Mother: Erma de Harcourt, b. 1070 in France
Family 1: Cecelia de la Haya heiress of Halnaker, b. ABT 1144 in Halnaker, Sussex, England d. 1162 in Compton, Sussex, England
- Maude de St. John, b. ABT 1127 in Old Basing, Hampshire, England d. ABT 1159 in Old Basing, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom
- Muriel de St. John, b. 1135 in St Jean, Manche, Basse-Normandie, France d. ABT 1160 in Halnaker, Sussex, England, United Kingdom
- Muriel De St John, b. 1105 in Basing, Hampshire, England
Sources:
- Title: The Genealogist "The Families of St John and of Port"
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/phocadownload/userupload/scanned-sources/tgb/Vol16-PDFs/S-3919.pdf;
- Title: Geni.com
Publication: Name: https://www.geni.com/people/Roger-de-St-John/6000000007125735394?through=6000000007125867236;
- Title: Roger de Saint John - Medlands - FMG
Author: m ROGER de Saint John, son of --- (-1130 or after).
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntlo.htm#RalphHayeMOliveAubigny;
- Title: Geneanet.org
Publication: Name: https://gw.geneanet.org/jscardoso?lang=en&n=de+st.+john&oc=0&p=roger;
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