Jean de Ponthieu I

• Preferred Name: Jean de Ponthieu I^{[1] [2]}
  
• Gender: M
  
• MilitaryService: Crusader Knight (Chevalier Croisé) with note: Died on the Third Crusade
  
• Nickname:
  
• FSID: MBBD-8D4
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Count of Ponthieu1147 in France with note: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_I,_Count_of_Ponthieu
  
• Death: 30 JUN 1191 in Acre, Hazafon, Palestine (Died in battle at Siege of Acre, Palestine during his third crusade) at LATI: N2.1974 LONG: E5.0091 with note: More reliable location.
  
• Occupation: Count of Ponthieu & Montgomerie
  
• Birth: ABT 1135 in Montreuil, Flandres, France at LATI: N0.4639 LONG: E0.7597
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Knight
  
• Burial: julho de 1191 in Abbey of Saint-Josse-au-Bois, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France at LATI: N0.4667 LONG: E0.7167 with note: Died in battle at Siege of Acre, Palestine during his third crusade
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  John I of Ponthieu (c. 1140 – 1191) was the son of Guy II of Ponthieu and succeeded him as Count of Ponthieu in 1147.[1]
  
  Family
  John married Beatrice of Saint-Pol, they had:
  William IV Talvas
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_I,_Count_of_Ponthieu
  
  BIO: Count of Ponthiu and Montreuil, 1171. Fought in wars against the English; Crusader; died on the 3rd Crusade.
  
  ** from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#AdelaPonthieudied1241MThomasStValery
  
  JEAN [I] de Ponthieu (-Acre 30 Jun 1191).
  "Wido comes Pontivii" confirmed freedoms over his lands, with the consent of "patris mei Willermi et domine Ele matris mee, fratris mei Johannis et uxoris mee Ide et filii mei Johannis" by undated charter[1043].
  He succeeded his father as Comte de Ponthieu. "Jean comte de Ponthieu" founded l´Hôtel-Dieu d´Abbeville by charter dated 1158, witnessed by "Ide comtesse…"[1044].
  Robert of Torigny records that Henry II King of England granted "castrum Alenceium et Rocam Mabiriæ" to "Willermus Talavacius comes Sagiensis et filius eius Johannes et iterum Johannes nepos eius filius Guidonis primogeniti sui comitis Pontivi" in 1166[1045].
  Robert of Torigny records the death in 1171 of "Guillermus Talavercius comes Pontivi" and the succession of "Johannes nepos suus…ex Guidone primogenitor suo"[1046]. "Jean comte de Ponthieu, Guillaume son fils, et Beatrix son épouse" granted revenues to "Baudin et Simon son frère…" by charter dated 1186[1047]. m firstly (after 1158) MATHILDE, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. 1162. m secondly (after 1162 [repudiated, before 1170]) [as her first husband,] LAURE de Saint-Valéry, daughter of RENAUD de Saint-Valéry & his [second] wife ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified.
  Domesday Descendants records that Renaud de Saint-Valéry was the father of "Laura wife first of John count of Ponthieu, by whom she was repudiated, and secondly of Alleaume de Fontaines", but does not cite the corresponding primary sources[1048]. [She married secondly Alleaume de Fontaines.] m thirdly (before 4 Dec 1170) BEATRIX de Saint-Pol, daughter of ANSELME "Candavène" Seigneur de Lucheux et de Tarentefirt [later Comte de Saint-Pol] & his first wife --- (-1202 or after).
  "Johannes comes Pontivi" confirmed rights of the monks of Val, with the consent of "Guidonis fratris mei et Beatricis comitisse uxoris mee", by charter dated 1177, which also names "mater mea Ida comitissa"[1049].
  The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. "Jean comte de Ponthieu, Guillaume son fils, et Beatrix son épouse" granted revenues to "Baudin et Simon son frère…" by charter dated 1186[1050]. Comte Jean [I] & his third wife had [four] children...
  
  BIO
  BIO: Count of Ponthiu and Montreuil, 1171. Fought in wars against the English; Crusader; died on the 3rd Crusade.
  
  ** from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#JeanIPonthieudied1191

• m. BEF 4 DEC 1170

1. Adele de Ponthieu, b. ABT 1170 in Ponthieu, Somme, Picardy, France     d. AFT 18 OCT 1241 in Domart-en-Ponthieu, Somme, Picardie, France
2. Guillaume de Ponthieu III, b. 1179     d. 4 OCT 1221
3. William of Ponthieu IV, b. 1178 in Ponthieu, Ain, Rhône-Alpes, France     d. 4 OCT 1221 in Ponthieu, Ain, Rhône-Alpes, France

1. Title: John I, Count of Ponthieu, Wikipedia
   Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_I,_Count_of_Ponthieu;
   Note: John I of Ponthieu (c. 1140 – 1191) was the son of Guy II of Ponthieu and succeeded him as Count of Ponthieu in 1147. John married Beatrice of Saint-Pol, they had: William IV Talvas
   
2. Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy - JEAN [I] de Ponthieu (-Acre 30 Jun 1191)
   Author: FMG Projects/MedLands
   Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#AdelaPonthieudied1241MThomasStValery;
   Note: JEAN [I] de Ponthieu (-Acre 30 Jun 1191). "Wido comes Pontivii" confirmed freedoms over his lands, with the consent of "patris mei Willermi et domine Ele matris mee, fratris mei Johannis et uxoris mee Ide et filii mei Johannis" by undated charter[793]. He succeeded his father as Comte de Ponthieu. "Jean comte de Ponthieu" founded l’Hôtel-Dieu d’Abbeville by charter dated 1158, witnessed by "Ide comtesse…"[794]. Robert of Torigny records that Henry II King of England granted "castrum Alenceium et Rocam Mabiriæ" to "Willermus Talavacius comes Sagiensis et filius eius Johannes et iterum Johannes nepos eius filius Guidonis primogeniti sui comitis Pontivi" in 1166[795]. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1171 of "Guillermus Talavercius comes Pontivi" and the succession of "Johannes nepos suus…ex Guidone primogenitor suo"[796]. "Jean comte de Ponthieu, Guillaume son fils, et Beatrix son épouse" granted revenues to "Baudin et Simon son frère…" by charter dated 1186[797]. m firstly (after 1158) MATHILDE, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified. 1162. m secondly (after 1162 [repudiated, before 1170]) [as her first husband,] LAURE de Saint-Valéry, daughter of RENAUD de Saint-Valéry & his [second] wife ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified. Domesday Descendants records that Renaud de Saint-Valéry was the father of "Laura wife first of John count of Ponthieu, by whom she was repudiated, and secondly of Alleaume de Fontaines", but does not cite the corresponding primary sources[798]. [She married secondly Alleaume de Fontaines.] m thirdly (before 4 Dec 1170) BEATRIX de Saint-Pol, daughter of ANSELME "Candavène" Seigneur de Lucheux et de Tarentefirt [later Comte de Saint-Pol] & his first wife --- (-1202 or after). "Johannes comes Pontivi" confirmed rights of the monks of Val, with the consent of "Guidonis fratris mei et Beatricis comitisse uxoris mee", by charter dated 1177, which also names "mater mea Ida comitissa"[799]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been identified. "Jean comte de Ponthieu, Guillaume son fils, et Beatrix son épouse" granted revenues to "Baudin et Simon son frère…" by charter dated 1186[800]. Comte Jean [I] & his third wife had [four] children: a) ADELA de Ponthieu (-after 18 Oct 1241). Letters dated 1178 confirm the marriage of "comes Pontivi filiam suam Edelam" and "Renaldo filio Bernardi de Sancto Walerico", with the right of substitution in case either party died before the marriage[801]. The death of Renaud before the marriage took place is indicated by the charter dated 1205 under which "Thomas de Sancto Walarico" promised service to "fratrem meum et dominum Willelmum comitem Pontivi"[802]. Dame de Saint-Aubin. Her marriage is confirmed by the undated charter under which her husband “Thomas de sancto Walerico” confirmed the donation by "Bernardus bonæ memoriæ pater meus" made to Godstow nunnery in Oxfordshire with the consent of Henry II King of England, for the souls of “Edelæ uxoris meæ et Bernardi patris meæ et Anoræ matris meæ”[803]. Betrothed (contract 1178) to RENAUD de Saint-Valéry, son of BERNARD Seigneur de Saint-Valéry & his wife Anora --- (-[1189/91]). m ([1191/92]) THOMAS de Saint-Valéry, son of BERNARD Seigneur de Saint-Valéry & his wife Anora --- (-before 1220). Seigneur de Saint-Valéry. The agreement between "dominum comitem Pontivi et Monstreoli" and "dominum Thomam de Sancto Waleriaco" is confirmed by charter dated Sep 1209[804]. An agreement dated 1209 between "dominum comitem" and "dominum Thomam de Sancto Walerico" refers to the marriage of the latter to "domine Edle sororis sue" and also names "Bernardus pater suus"[805]. b) GUILLAUME [II] "Talvas" de Ponthieu (after 1178-6 Oct 1221, bur Abbaye de Valloires, Somme). "Jean comte de Ponthieu, Guillaume son fils, et Beatrix son épouse" granted revenues to "Baudin et Simon son frère…" by charter dated 1186[806]. He succeeded his father in 1191 as Comte de Ponthieu. - see below. c) MARGUERITE de Ponthieu (-after Aug 1216). The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been identified. “Ingelrannus de Pinchonio vicedominus Ambianensis” donated property to the church of Amiens for the anniversaries of "meo et...uxoris mee Margarete" by charter dated Apr 1209[807]. "Enguerrand Sgr de Picquigny vidame d’Amiens" donated property to the abbey of Gard, with the consent of "Marguerite sa femme, de ses fils et filles Girard, Renaut, Flandrine, Ide, Marguerite et Marie", by charter dated Aug 1216[808]. m ENGUERRAND de Picquigny Vidame d'Amiens, son of GUERMOND [III] de Picquigny Vidame d’Amiens & his wife Flandrine d’Amiens (-[Jun/Nov] 1224). d) [HELENE de Ponthieu . Père Anselme records "Guillaume d’Estouteville", son of Nicolas [I] d’Estouteville, adding "à qui l’on donne femme, mais sans preuve, Helene de Ponthieu, on la dit fille de Jean I comte de Ponthieu et de Beatrix de S. Paul sa troisième femme"[809]. m GUILLAUME d'Estouteville, son of NICOLAS [I] Seigneur d’Estouteville & his wife --- (-before 1210).]
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