Hugh de Saye

• Preferred Name: Hugh de Saye^[1]
  
• Alternate Name: Hugh De SAY [Baron]
  
• Gender: M
  
• Death: 29 SEP 1190 in Ludlow, Herefordshire, England at LATI: N2.1344 LONG: E2.7492
  
• FSID: LD9W-7GC
  
• AFN: in M554-VJ
  
• Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Hugh-de-Say-of-Richard-s-Castle-4th-baron-of-Burford/6000000006906676165?through=6000000002005901088
  
• Birth: 1136 in Richards Castle, Herefordshire, England at LATI: N2.3213 LONG: E2.7427 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• Burial: OCT 1190
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3P-S.htm#HughFitzHughSayB
  
  D. SAY (FITZHUGH)
  
  Hugh de Say [I] adopted the name Say from his mother’s family, as can be seen for example in the [1172/85] charter which is quoted below.
  
  HUGH de Say [I], son of HUGH FitzOsbern & his wife Eustachia de Say (-1190). “Osbertus filius Hugonis” donated property to Godstow nunnery in Oxfordshire, at the request of “domini Walteri de Clifford” for the souls of "uxoris suæ Margaretæ et…Rosamundæ filiæ suæ", with the consent of "Hugonis fratris mei", by undated charter[494]. "Osbertus filius Hugonis" confirmed the settlement of his dispute with the monks of Worcester Cathedral priory concerning the boundaries of their woods at Cornwood by charter dated to [1170], witnessed by "Hugone de Sai fratre meo…"[495]. "Osbern fitz Hugh" donated a virgate at Richard’s Castle to Haughmond Abbey by charter dated to [1172/85], witnessed by "Walter de Clifford, Walter his son, Hugh de Say and Lucie his wife"[496]. “Walterus de Clifford” donated property to Godstow nunnery in Oxfordshire, for the souls of "uxoris meæ Margaretæ de Clifford et filiæ nostræ Rosamundæ", by undated charter witnessed by "Osbertus filius Hugonis, Hugo de Sey…"[497]. "Osbern de Say and…his brother Hugh" confirmed a charter of Baldwin Bishop of Worcester, dated to after Aug 1180[498].
  
  m as her first husband, LUCY, daughter of WALTER Clifford & his wife Margaret ---. "Hugh de Say and Lucia his wife, daughter of Walter de Clifford, son of Richard fitz Poncius" donated the mill of Rocheforde to Haughmond Abbey by undated charter, witnessed by "Walter de Clifford de Clifford junior, Richard de Clifford his brother", later confirmed by "Walter de Clifford, son of Walter, son of Richard fitz Poncius" who names Hugh de Say’s wife as his sister, witnessed by "Hugh de Say and Richard de Clifford"[499]. “Osbertus filius Hugonis” donated property to Godstow nunnery in Oxfordshire, at the request of “domini Walteri de Clifford” for the souls of "uxoris suæ Margaretæ et…Rosamundæ filiæ suæ", with the consent of "Hugonis fratris mei", by undated charter witnessed by "Waltero de Clifford, Ricardo filio suo et Lucia filia sua…"[500]. "Osbern fitz Hugh" donated a virgate at Richard’s Castle to Haughmond Abbey by charter dated to [1172/85], witnessed by "Walter de Clifford, Walter his son, Hugh de Say and Lucie his wife"[501]. She married secondly Bartholomew de Mortimer. "Lucia de Say daughter of Walter de Clifford" donated land in Rocheforde to Haughmond Abbey, with the consent of "her son Hugh de Say", by undated charter, witnessed by "Hugh de Say, Walter de Clifford", but later released claims of the abbey to land in Rochford with the consent of "Bartholomew de Mortimer her husband"[502].
  
  Hugh & his wife had three children:
  
  1. HUGH de Say [II] ([1165/70]-killed in battle ([1196]). "Lucia de Say daughter of Walter de Clifford" donated land in Rocheforde to Haughmond Abbey, with the consent of "her son Hugh de Say", by undated charter, witnessed by "Hugh de Say, Walter de Clifford"[503]. The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1194/95], records "Hugo de Say" paying "xxiii l, xxiii milites" in Herefordshire, and granted delay to pay in Berkshire[504]. m as her first husband, MABEL, daughter of ROBERT [IV] Marmion & his wife ---. She married secondly (before Mar 1200) Reginald ---. Hugh & his wife had one child:
  
  a) MARGERY de Say ([1190/96]-1230). The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet been identified. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166 (but added later), record that "Robertus de Mortuo mari" held 23 knights’ fees "in honore Castelli Ricardi" with "filia Hugonis de Say hærede Osberti filii Hugonis" in Herefordshire[505]. The sheriff of Essex was ordered to cause "Margaret de Say, who was the wife of Robert de Mortimer" to have "the rightful dower of the lands formerly of Robert her former husband", dated to [Jul] 1219[506]. "Margareta de Say filia Hugonis de Sai, quondam uxor Roberti de Mortuomari" quitclaimed to the monks of Worcester Cathedral priory certain services due to her from their manor of Boraston by charter dated 1219[507]. Henry III King of England consented to the marriage of "Margaretam que fuit uxor Roberti de Mortuo Mari" and "Willelmus de Stutevill" dated 23 Nov 1219[508]. "William de Stuteville" paid a fine to marry "Margaret who was the wife of Robert de Mortimer", dated to [Nov] 1219[509]. The Annals of Worcester record the death in 1230 of “Margerie de Say”[510]. Inquisitiones dated 20 May 1259 record that "William de Scoteville" held the manors of Wychbold and Cotheridge in Worcestershire from "Margery his wife" and name "Sir Hugh de Mortuo Mari son of the said Margery" as her next heir and of full age[511]. m firstly (1197 or after) HUGH de Ferrers of Lechlade, son of WALKELIN de Ferrers & his wife --- (-1204). m secondly ([6 May 1209/Jun 1211]) ROBERT de Mortimer, son of ROGER [III] de Mortimer & his [second] wife Isabel de Ferrers (-before [Jul] 1219). m thirdly (Royal licence 23 Nov 1219) WILLIAM de Stuteville, son of WILLIAM de Stuteville & his wife --- (-before 20 May 1259).
  
  2. RICHARD de Say of Rochford (-after 1200). "Richard de Say" donated property at Givele to Montacute priory, to keep the anniversary of "the lady Lucy the grantor’s mother", by undated charter which names "his brother Sir Gilbert"[512].
  
  3. GILBERT de Say (-after 1210). "Richard de Say" donated property at Givele to Montacute priory, to keep the anniversary of "the lady Lucy the grantor’s mother", by undated charter which names "his brother Sir Gilbert"[513]. The Red Book of the Exchequer records "Gilbertus de Say" holding one knight’s fee "in Givele" in Dorset, Somerset in [1210/12][514]. m MATILDA de Clivedon, daughter of MATTHEW de Clivedon & his wife --- de Montagu (-after 1223). Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by a claim dated 1223, noted by Bracton, by "Willelmus filius Drogonis de Monte Acuto…infra etatem" against "Matheum de Cliuedona" for "ecclesiam de Suttona…advocacionem", the defendant claiming that "Willelmus de Monte Acuto avus predicti Willelmi" gave the advocacy to "Gilberto de Say in…maritagium cum Matillide nepte sua filia eiusdem Mathei"[515].
  
  === 1 _UID 843F6B7E9103D611828100606E3BD45C ===
  1 _UID 843F6B7E9103D611828100606E3BD45C63F7
  
  === Ancestral File Number: M554-VJ ===
  Ancestral File Number: M554-VJ
  
  Source: Please cite original sources.
  Compiled by: J. K. Loren
  
  === !NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Lat ===
  !NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (TM); ; June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998; ; , Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA
  
  === Source: Antiquities of Shropshire, Vol. ===
  Source: Antiquities of Shropshire, Vol. 4. Antiquities: Hugh de Say I. Occurs 1176. Succeeded 1185. Died 1190.
  
  === ! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.38 ===
  ! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.385 ! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.385 ! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.385
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 JAN 1998. Line 56837 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England
  
  === Date and Location are generated ===
  Date and Location are generated
  
  === !SOURCE: LDS Ancestral File and IGI reco ===
  !SOURCE: LDS Ancestral File and IGI records. !CHILDREN: others shown as Richard and Lucy.
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 2105 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 970 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 2309 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England Line 265 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: BIRT PLAC Of Richard's Castle,, Herefordshire, England From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 505 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === !#200-p66; !#205-v4; !#240-p117; !#242-p ===
  !#200-p66; !#205-v4; !#240-p117; !#242-p122; !#387-p147; !#653-p194; !#687-p98; !#711-v4-p165; !#773-p16; !#798-v1-p206; !#1216; !#1358-p367; !#1505-p5; !#1760-p154; !#2097-p326; !#2181-p148,323;
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 JAN 1998.
  
  === LDS Ordinances found in IGI. ===
  LDS Ordinances found in IGI.
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 53339 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England
  
  === V M Norr: Some Early English Pedigrees ===
  V M Norr: Some Early English Pedigrees pp 74,88
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 1949 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 1949 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England Line 121 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: BIRT PLAC Of Richard's Castle,, Herefordshire, England From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 761 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 1074 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England
  
  === 2d hus. Bartholemew/de Mortimer ===
  2d hus. Bartholemew/de Mortimer
  
  === Ancestral File Number: M554-VJ ===
  Ancestral File Number: M554-VJ
  
  === Line 119178 from GEDCOM File not recogni ===
  Line 119178 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England
  
  === Name Suffix: Baron Ancestral File ===
  Name Suffix: Baron Ancestral File Number: M554-VJ
  
  === Non-standard gedcom data: 1 HEAL M554- ===
  Non-standard gedcom data: 1 HEAL M554-VJ
  
  === !: SOUR AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ ===
  !: SOUR AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints TITL Ancestral File(TM) PUBL June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998 REPO @R01@
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. !Marriage: Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England.
  
  === !#21> Complete Peerage-v9-p257*,258fn(j) ===
  !#21> Complete Peerage-v9-p257*,258fn(j), (FHL 942 D22cok); !KIN> bro & h of Osbern FITZHUGH (also styled Osbern or Osbert de Say); DEATH> bef Mich 1190;
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 17312 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England
  
  === 1 _FA6 2 PLAC [Baron] From Ancestral F ===
  1 _FA6 2 PLAC [Baron] From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 192061 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England
  
  === SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
  SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.13, 28, 37, 39; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  === Life Sketch ===
  http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3P-S.htm#HughFitzHughSayB
  
  D. SAY (FITZHUGH)
  
  Hugh de Say [I] adopted the name Say from his mother’s family, as can be seen for example in the [1172/85] charter which is quoted below.
  
  HUGH de Say [I], son of HUGH FitzOsbern & his wife Eustachia de Say (-1190). “Osbertus filius Hugonis” donated property to Godstow nunnery in Oxfordshire, at the request of “domini Walteri de Clifford” for the souls of "uxoris suæ Margaretæ et…Rosamundæ filiæ suæ", with the consent of "Hugonis fratris mei", by undated charter[494]. "Osbertus filius Hugonis" confirmed the settlement of his dispute with the monks of Worcester Cathedral priory concerning the boundaries of their woods at Cornwood by charter dated to [1170], witnessed by "Hugone de Sai fratre meo…"[495]. "Osbern fitz Hugh" donated a virgate at Richard’s Castle to Haughmond Abbey by charter dated to [1172/85], witnessed by "Walter de Clifford, Walter his son, Hugh de Say and Lucie his wife"[496]. “Walterus de Clifford” donated property to Godstow nunnery in Oxfordshire, for the souls of "uxoris meæ Margaretæ de Clifford et filiæ nostræ Rosamundæ", by undated charter witnessed by "Osbertus filius Hugonis, Hugo de Sey…"[497]. "Osbern de Say and…his brother Hugh" confirmed a charter of Baldwin Bishop of Worcester, dated to after Aug 1180[498].
  
  m as her first husband, LUCY, daughter of WALTER Clifford & his wife Margaret ---. "Hugh de Say and Lucia his wife, daughter of Walter de Clifford, son of Richard fitz Poncius" donated the mill of Rocheforde to Haughmond Abbey by undated charter, witnessed by "Walter de Clifford de Clifford junior, Richard de Clifford his brother", later confirmed by "Walter de Clifford, son of Walter, son of Richard fitz Poncius" who names Hugh de Say’s wife as his sister, witnessed by "Hugh de Say and Richard de Clifford"[499]. “Osbertus filius Hugonis” donated property to Godstow nunnery in Oxfordshire, at the request of “domini Walteri de Clifford” for the souls of "uxoris suæ Margaretæ et…Rosamundæ filiæ suæ", with the consent of "Hugonis fratris mei", by undated charter witnessed by "Waltero de Clifford, Ricardo filio suo et Lucia filia sua…"[500]. "Osbern fitz Hugh" donated a virgate at Richard’s Castle to Haughmond Abbey by charter dated to [1172/85], witnessed by "Walter de Clifford, Walter his son, Hugh de Say and Lucie his wife"[501]. She married secondly Bartholomew de Mortimer. "Lucia de Say daughter of Walter de Clifford" donated land in Rocheforde to Haughmond Abbey, with the consent of "her son Hugh de Say", by undated charter, witnessed by "Hugh de Say, Walter de Clifford", but later released claims of the abbey to land in Rochford with the consent of "Bartholomew de Mortimer her husband"[502].
  
  Hugh & his wife had three children:
  
  1. HUGH de Say [II] ([1165/70]-killed in battle ([1196]). "Lucia de Say daughter of Walter de Clifford" donated land in Rocheforde to Haughmond Abbey, with the consent of "her son Hugh de Say", by undated charter, witnessed by "Hugh de Say, Walter de Clifford"[503]. The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1194/95], records "Hugo de Say" paying "xxiii l, xxiii milites" in Herefordshire, and granted delay to pay in Berkshire[504]. m as her first husband, MABEL, daughter of ROBERT [IV] Marmion & his wife ---. She married secondly (before Mar 1200) Reginald ---. Hugh & his wife had one child:
  
  a) MARGERY de Say ([1190/96]-1230). The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet been identified. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166 (but added later), record that "Robertus de Mortuo mari" held 23 knights’ fees "in honore Castelli Ricardi" with "filia Hugonis de Say hærede Osberti filii Hugonis" in Herefordshire[505]. The sheriff of Essex was ordered to cause "Margaret de Say, who was the wife of Robert de Mortimer" to have "the rightful dower of the lands formerly of Robert her former husband", dated to [Jul] 1219[506]. "Margareta de Say filia Hugonis de Sai, quondam uxor Roberti de Mortuomari" quitclaimed to the monks of Worcester Cathedral priory certain services due to her from their manor of Boraston by charter dated 1219[507]. Henry III King of England consented to the marriage of "Margaretam que fuit uxor Roberti de Mortuo Mari" and "Willelmus de Stutevill" dated 23 Nov 1219[508]. "William de Stuteville" paid a fine to marry "Margaret who was the wife of Robert de Mortimer", dated to [Nov] 1219[509]. The Annals of Worcester record the death in 1230 of “Margerie de Say”[510]. Inquisitiones dated 20 May 1259 record that "William de Scoteville" held the manors of Wychbold and Cotheridge in Worcestershire from "Margery his wife" and name "Sir Hugh de Mortuo Mari son of the said Margery" as her next heir and of full age[511]. m firstly (1197 or after) HUGH de Ferrers of Lechlade, son of WALKELIN de Ferrers & his wife --- (-1204). m secondly ([6 May 1209/Jun 1211]) ROBERT de Mortimer, son of ROGER [III] de Mortimer & his [second] wife Isabel de Ferrers (-before [Jul] 1219). m thirdly (Royal licence 23 Nov 1219) WILLIAM de Stuteville, son of WILLIAM de Stuteville & his wife --- (-before 20 May 1259).
  
  2. RICHARD de Say of Rochford (-after 1200). "Richard de Say" donated property at Givele to Montacute priory, to keep the anniversary of "the lady Lucy the grantor’s mother", by undated charter which names "his brother Sir Gilbert"[512].
  
  3. GILBERT de Say (-after 1210). "Richard de Say" donated property at Givele to Montacute priory, to keep the anniversary of "the lady Lucy the grantor’s mother", by undated charter which names "his brother Sir Gilbert"[513]. The Red Book of the Exchequer records "Gilbertus de Say" holding one knight’s fee "in Givele" in Dorset, Somerset in [1210/12][514]. m MATILDA de Clivedon, daughter of MATTHEW de Clivedon & his wife --- de Montagu (-after 1223). Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by a claim dated 1223, noted by Bracton, by "Willelmus filius Drogonis de Monte Acuto…infra etatem" against "Matheum de Cliuedona" for "ecclesiam de Suttona…advocacionem", the defendant claiming that "Willelmus de Monte Acuto avus predicti Willelmi" gave the advocacy to "Gilberto de Say in…maritagium cum Matillide nepte sua filia eiusdem Mathei"[515].
  
  === Ancestral File Number: M554-VJ ===
  Ancestral File Number: M554-VJ
  
  Source: Please cite original sources.
  Compiled by: J. K. Loren
  
  === 2d hus. Bartholemew/de Mortimer ===
  2d hus. Bartholemew/de Mortimer
  
  === SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
  SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.13, 28, 37, 39; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
  
  === Date and Location are generated ===
  Date and Location are generated
  
  === ! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.38 ===
  ! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.385 ! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.385 ! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.385
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 2105 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 970 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 2309 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England Line 265 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: BIRT PLAC Of Richard's Castle,, Herefordshire, England From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 505 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 JAN 1998.
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === !#200-p66; !#205-v4; !#240-p117; !#242-p ===
  !#200-p66; !#205-v4; !#240-p117; !#242-p122; !#387-p147; !#653-p194; !#687-p98; !#711-v4-p165; !#773-p16; !#798-v1-p206; !#1216; !#1358-p367; !#1505-p5; !#1760-p154; !#2097-p326; !#2181-p148,323;
  
  === Line 119178 from GEDCOM File not recogni ===
  Line 119178 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 17312 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England
  
  === LDS Ordinances found in IGI. ===
  LDS Ordinances found in IGI.
  
  === Source: Antiquities of Shropshire, Vol. ===
  Source: Antiquities of Shropshire, Vol. 4. Antiquities: Hugh de Say I. Occurs 1176. Succeeded 1185. Died 1190.
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 1949 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 1949 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England Line 121 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: BIRT PLAC Of Richard's Castle,, Herefordshire, England From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 761 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 1074 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England
  
  === !NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Lat ===
  !NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (TM); ; June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998; ; , Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA
  
  === Ancestral File Number: M554-VJ ===
  Ancestral File Number: M554-VJ
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 53339 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England
  
  === Name Suffix: Baron Ancestral File ===
  Name Suffix: Baron Ancestral File Number: M554-VJ
  
  === !#21> Complete Peerage-v9-p257*,258fn(j) ===
  !#21> Complete Peerage-v9-p257*,258fn(j), (FHL 942 D22cok); !KIN> bro & h of Osbern FITZHUGH (also styled Osbern or Osbert de Say); DEATH> bef Mich 1190;
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 JAN 1998. Line 56837 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. !Marriage: Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England.
  
  === !: SOUR AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ ===
  !: SOUR AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints TITL Ancestral File(TM) PUBL June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998 REPO @R01@
  
  === V M Norr: Some Early English Pedigrees ===
  V M Norr: Some Early English Pedigrees pp 74,88
  
  === 1 _FA6 2 PLAC [Baron] From Ancestral F ===
  1 _FA6 2 PLAC [Baron] From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === !SOURCE: LDS Ancestral File and IGI reco ===
  !SOURCE: LDS Ancestral File and IGI records. !CHILDREN: others shown as Richard and Lucy.
  
  === 1 _UID 843F6B7E9103D611828100606E3BD45C ===
  1 _UID 843F6B7E9103D611828100606E3BD45C63F7
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Line 192061 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: MARR PLAC Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England
  
  === Non-standard gedcom data: 1 HEAL M554- ===
  Non-standard gedcom data: 1 HEAL M554-VJ

• m. 1152 in Clifford, Herefordshire, England
• m. ABT 1158 in Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England

1. Hugh de Saye Baron of Burford, b. ABT 1161 in Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England     d. BEF 1196 in Richards Castle, Herefordshire, England

1. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Hugh De SAY -
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