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Margaret de Saye
- Preferred Name: Margaret de Saye[1] [2] [3]
- Alternate Name: Lucy Say
- Alternate Name: Margery de St. Par
- Alternate Name: Margaret De Say
- Gender: F
- Death: ABT SEP 1230 in Gressenhall, Norfolk, England at LATI: N2.6992 LONG: E0.9022
- Religion: I191
- FSID: LZKQ-GBR
- Birth: ABT 1192 in Herefordshire, England, United Kingdom at LATI: N2.1344 LONG: E2.7492 with note: Richard's Castle
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3P-S.htm#MargerySaydied1230
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== !: SOUR AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ ===
!: SOUR AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints TITL Ancestral File(TM) PUBL June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998 REPO @R01@
=== LDS ordinances found in IGI ===
LDS ordinances found in IGI
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== !SOURCE: LDS Ancestral File and IGI reco ===
!SOURCE: LDS Ancestral File and IGI records. NOTE: Another Margaret de SAY listed with AFN M555-2J.
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 JAN 1998.
=== Still Living. ===
Still Living.
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.22, 25, 37, 39;
=== 1 DEAT 2 DATE BEF. 1243 ===
1 DEAT 2 DATE BEF. 1243
=== dead ===
dead
=== Ancestral File Number: V9TH-3N ===
Ancestral File Number: V9TH-3N
=== !#21> Complete Peerage-v4pt1-p191fn(c),- ===
!#21> Complete Peerage-v4pt1-p191fn(c),-v9-p258*,258n(j),260,260/1fn(m), (FHL 942 D22cok); !KIN> dau & h; DEATH> bef autumn 1242;
=== Source: Please cite original sources. ===
Source: Please cite original sources.
Compiled by: J. K. Loren
=== !Brown book 5, P C 643. Widow of Hugh de ===
!Brown book 5, P C 643. Widow of Hugh de Ferriers.
=== Ancestral File Number: B3DB-WS ===
Ancestral File Number: B3DB-WS
=== !NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Lat ===
!NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (TM); ; June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998; ; , Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA
=== !Some Early English Pedigrees, Britis 94 ===
!Some Early English Pedigrees, Britis 942 D2no, page 88.
=== !#21> Complete Peerage-v9-p261fn(a), (FH ===
!#21> Complete Peerage-v9-p261fn(a), (FHL 942 D22cok); !ASSUMPTION> possibly elder sis, who may have been excluded from inheritance on account of idiocy or some other cause;
=== children ===
children
=== Sources: Norr; Antiquities of Shropshire ===
Sources: Norr; Antiquities of Shropshire, Vol. 4; AF. Norr: Margaret de Say of Richard's Castle.
=== ! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.38 ===
! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.385 ! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.385 ! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.385
=== !Some Early English Pedigrees, Britis 9 ===
!Some Early English Pedigrees, Britis 942 D2no, page 88.
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== Life Sketch ===
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3P-S.htm#MargerySaydied1230
=== Ancestral File Number: V9TH-3N ===
Ancestral File Number: V9TH-3N
=== dead ===
dead
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== !#21> Complete Peerage-v9-p261fn(a), (FH ===
!#21> Complete Peerage-v9-p261fn(a), (FHL 942 D22cok); !ASSUMPTION> possibly elder sis, who may have been excluded from inheritance on account of idiocy or some other cause;
=== Ancestral File Number: B3DB-WS ===
Ancestral File Number: B3DB-WS
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== Sources: Norr; Antiquities of Shropshire ===
Sources: Norr; Antiquities of Shropshire, Vol. 4; AF. Norr: Margaret de Say of Richard's Castle.
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== Still Living. ===
Still Living.
=== Source: Please cite original sources. ===
Source: Please cite original sources.
Compiled by: J. K. Loren
=== 1 DEAT 2 DATE BEF. 1243 ===
1 DEAT 2 DATE BEF. 1243
=== !Some Early English Pedigrees, Britis 9 ===
!Some Early English Pedigrees, Britis 942 D2no, page 88.
=== LDS ordinances found in IGI ===
LDS ordinances found in IGI
=== !#21> Complete Peerage-v4pt1-p191fn(c),- ===
!#21> Complete Peerage-v4pt1-p191fn(c),-v9-p258*,258n(j),260,260/1fn(m), (FHL 942 D22cok); !KIN> dau & h; DEATH> bef autumn 1242;
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.22, 25, 37, 39;
=== children ===
children
=== !Brown book 5, P C 643. Widow of Hugh de ===
!Brown book 5, P C 643. Widow of Hugh de Ferriers.
=== !Some Early English Pedigrees, Britis 94 ===
!Some Early English Pedigrees, Britis 942 D2no, page 88.
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 JAN 1998.
=== ! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.38 ===
! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.385 ! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.385 ! from Dormant and Extinct Peerages p.385
=== !SOURCE: LDS Ancestral File and IGI reco ===
!SOURCE: LDS Ancestral File and IGI records. NOTE: Another Margaret de SAY listed with AFN M555-2J.
=== !: SOUR AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ ===
!: SOUR AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints TITL Ancestral File(TM) PUBL June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998 REPO @R01@
=== !NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Lat ===
!NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (TM); ; June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998; ; , Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA
Preferred Parents:
Father: Hugh de Saye Baron of Burford, b. ABT 1161 in Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England d. BEF 1196 in Richards Castle, Herefordshire, England
Mother: Mabel Marmion, b. ABT 1160 in Richards Castle, Herefordshire, England d. BEF 1211
Family 1: William de Stuteville of Gressenhall, b. ABT 1170 in Weasenham, Norfolk, Cowesby, Yorkshire, England d. BEF 20 MAY 1259 in Norfolk, England
- m. ABT 1220 in Essex, England, United Kingdom
- Margery Stuteville, b. ABT 1225 in Gressenhall, Norfolk, England d. 1271 in Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England
Family 2: Hugh de Ferrers Burford Baron, b. ABT 1176 in Ferrers, Derbyshire, England
Family 3: Hugh de Ferrers, b. 1167 in Lechlade, Gloucestershire, England d. 1204 in Spain
- m. ABT 1200 in Of,, Herefordshire, England
- m. 1200 in , Hereford, England, Great Britain
- m. 1197
Family 4: Robert de Mortimer, b. 1169 in Woodham Mortimer, Essex, England d. 5 JUL 1219 in Widdington, Essex, England
- m. BEF 1209 in Herefordshire, England, United Kingdom
- Hugh de Mortimer of Richard's Castle, b. ABT 1219 in Richard's Castle, Ludlow (Shrops), Herefordshire, England d. 25 NOV 1274 in Richards Castle, Herefordshire, England
- Hugh de Mortimer, b. 1250 in Royaume-Uni
- Hugh de Mortimer, b. 1219 d. 18 NOV 1274
Sources:
- Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/collections/9289/records/11398493;
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Lucy De Say -
Author: Ancestral File (TM), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2737222797
- Title: Margaret de Saye - Medlands - FMG
Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3P-S.htm#MargerySaydied1230;
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