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Joane Marshal Countess of Warren
- Preferred Name: Joane Marshal Countess of Warren
- Gender: F
- Christening: in The Cathedral Church of St. David's, Pembrokeshire, Wales at LATI: N1.8818 LONG: E5.2705
- Birth: ABT 1202 in St. David's Church, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales at LATI: N1.6761 LONG: E4.9158
- Death: ABT 1234 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales at LATI: N1.6761 LONG: E4.9158
- FSID: GV5S-N23
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“JOAN MARSHAL, married after 1219 (as his 1st wife) WARIN DE MUNCHENSY, Knt., of Swanscombe, Kent, 2nd son of William de Munchensy, Knt., of Swanscombe, Kent, Winfarthing and Gooderstone, Norfolk, etc., by Aveline, daughter of Roger de Clare, Earl of Hertford [see CLARE 4.ii for his ancestry]. He was born about 1192 (came of age in 1213). He was heir about 1208 to his older brother, William de Munchensy. They had one son, John, and one daughter, Joan. He was involved on the side of the Barons against King John, and his lands were forfeited. He was taken prisoner at the Battle of Lincoln 20 May 1217. He returned to allegiance by Nov. 1217. In 1221 he accompanied the king to the Siege of Byham. He was serving in Wales in 1223, with his brother-in-law, William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. He was with the king overseas in 1229-30, and in Wales at the end of 1233. He married (2nd) between November 1234 and June 1235 DENISE DE ANESTY, widow of Walter Langton (died 1234), of Langton, Lincolnshire, and Ridgwell, Essex (brother of Archbishop Stephen Langton), and daughter and heiress of Nicholas de Anesty, of Ansty and Little Hormead, Hertfordshire, Bourn, Cambridgeshire, etc., by ___, sister of Hamon Pecche. They had one son, William. In 1237-8 he and his wife, Denise, acquired 1-1/2 virgate in Bourn, Cambridgeshire from William Haretail. He was serving in Gascony in 1242-44, where he took part in the Battle of Saintes. He was summoned against the Scots in 1244, and, in June 1245, for service in Wales. He was in Gascony again in 1252. He was at Dover 26 Dec. 1254, the day King Henry III appears to have crossed from Boulogne. SIR WARIN DE MUNCHENSY died testate about 20 July 1255. His widow, Denise, married (3rd) before 4 June 1260 ROBERT LE BOTELER (or LE BOTILLER). In 1260 he and his wife, Denise, were granted protection, they then going beyond seas. In 1266 he was granted a safe conduct, he then coming to the king's court. His wife, Denise, again went beyond seas in 1271. ROBERT LE BOTELER died before autumn 1272. In 1294 his widow, Denise, founded the nunnery of Waterbeach, Cambridgeshire. She died shortly before 23 May 1304, and was buried in the church of the Grey Friars, London.
Dugdale Monasticon Anglicanum 5 (1825): 271 (Abbey of Tintern, Titulus illorum de Verdon et de Genevill …: "Secunda filia antedicto Willihelmi Marescalli vocabatur Johanna, nupta Warino de Montecaniso, de qua habuit exitum Johannem de Montecaniso qui obiit sine hærede de se, et Johannam sororem ejus nuptam domino Willihelmo de Valentia."). Lipscomb Hist. & Antiqs. of Buckingham 1 (1847): 200-201 (Clare ped.). Clark Earls, Earldom, & Castle of Pembroke (1880): 69-75. Matthew of Paris Chronica Majora 5 (Rolls Ser. 57) (1880):504 (sub AD. 1255: "Obiit eodem tempore nobilis baro, inter omnes Angliae nobiles vel nobilissimus et sapientissimus vel unus de nobilioribus et sapientibus, Warinus de Muntcheinsil ... Dominus autem rex ilico custodiam haeredis ejus nomine Willeimi contulit Willelmo de Valentia fratri suo uterino, qui filiam ejusdem Warini, ut gener ejus esset, desponsaverat."). Stubbs Historical Works of Gervase of Canterbury 2 (Rolls Ser. 73) (1880): 110-111. Francisque-Michel Riles Gascons 1 (1885): 6, 10-11, 30-32, 190. Papal Regs.: Letters 1 (1893): 566 (Denise de Munchensy, foundress of Waterbeach Abbey, styled "king's kinswoman"). Desc. Cat. Ancient Deeds 2 (1894): 91. C.C.R. 1302-1307 (1908): 513. C.P.R. 1258-1266 (1910): 75, 621, 667. C.F.R. 1 (1911): 493. Inv. of the Hist. Monuments in Herefordshire (1911): 12. VCH Hampshire 4 (1911): 51-56. VCH Hertford 3 (1912): 232-240. Genealogist n.s. 34 (1918): 181-189 (William d'Aubeney, Earl of Arundel, styled "uncle" [avunculus] of Warin de Munchensy in 1213, he being half-brother of Warin's mother, Aveline de Clare). Bourdillon Order of Minoresses in England (1926): 13-16. Powicke Stephen Langton (1928). Pubs Bedfordshire Hist. oc. 13 (1930): Ped. 11 (Lenveyse, Birkin, Anstey ped.). C.P. 9 (1936): 421-422 (sub Munchensy). VCH Cambridge 2 (1948): 292-293; 5 (1973): 4-16. Sanders English Baronies (1960): 63, 144. Clanchy From Memory to Written Record: England 1066-1307 (1993): 197-200, 245. McCash Cultural Patronage of Medieval Women (1996): 245-246, 262-263. Higgitt Murthly Hours (2000): 175. Gee Women, Art & Patronage from Henry III to Edward III: 1216-1377 (2002): 75-76, 142. Lawrence Letters of Adam Marsh 1 (2006): 56-63.”
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From Medieval Lands:
JOAN (-before 1242). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire, names (in order) ”Matilda…Johanna…Isabella” as the daughters of “Willielmi Marescalli comitis Penbrochiæ”[1596]. The same source records in a later passage that "secunda filia…Willihelmi Marescalli…Johanna" married "Warino de Montecaniso" by whom she was mother of "Johannem de Montecaniso" who died childless and "Johannam sororem eius" who married "domino Willihelmo de Valentia"[1597]. m as his first wife, WARIN de Munchensy, son of WILLIAM de Munchensy & his wife Aveline de Clare (-[20 Jul 1255]).
[Source: Medieval Lands, "JOAN Marshal", downloaded 8 August 2018, dvmansur.]
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#IsabelMarshaldied1240 as of 5/29/2016
JOAN (-before 1242). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire, names (in orde
=== Note ===
Joan m. Warin de Munchensi, Lord of Swanscomb; their dau. Joan (d. by 09-30-1307) m. 08-13-1247 Sir William de Valence (b. ca. 1225/6, d. by 05-18-1296), Lord of Valence, Montignac, Bellac, Rancon and Champagnac, knighted 10-13-1247, Crusader, 4th son of Hugh X "le Brun", Count of Lusignam, and his wife Isabella, widow of King John of Engl.
=== !Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Editio ===
!Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Edition L 80-28
=== == Biography == ===
== Biography ==
Joane MARSHALL [Source: [[#S2]] ][Source: [[#S3]] ][Source: [[#S4]] ]
: Name: Joane /MUNCHENSY/
Joane Marshall[http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=17913036&pid=703865025]
Joan Marshal[http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=17913036&pid=703865031]
=== Birth ===
ABT 1202 at Pembroke, PEM, Wales[Source: [[#S4]] ]
=== Parents and Siblings ===
: Husband: [[Marshall-1461|William Marshall]]
: Wife: [[De CLARE-261|Isabel Fitzgilbert de CLARE]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1463|Sibyl Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1469|Isabel Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1467|Margaret Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1464|Maud (Matilda) Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1470|Eve Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1468|Gilbert Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1460|William Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1462|Richard Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1466|Joane Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1459|Anselm Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1465|Walter Marshall]]
: Marriage:
:: Date: AUG 1189
:: Place: London, MDX, England[Source: [[#S4]] ]
: Husband: [[Marshall-1888|William Marshall]]
: Wife: [[De Clare-363|Isabel De Clare]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1885|Richard Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1884|Maud Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1878|Gilbert Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1887|Walter Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1876|Anselm Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1880|Isabel Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1877|Eva Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1881|Joan Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshall-1886|Sybilla Marshall]]
: Child: [[Marshal-61|William Marshal]]
: Marriage:
:: Date: AUG 1189
=== Marriage ===
: Husband: [[Munchensy-28|Warin Munchensy]]
: Wife: [[Marshall-1466|Joane Marshall]]
: Child: [[Munchensy-26|John Munchensy]]
: Child: [[Munchensy-27|Joan Munchensy]]
: Marriage:
:: Date: ABT 1217
:: Place: Of, Pembroke, PEM, Wales[Source: [[#S4]] ]
=== Death ===
ABT 1234[Source: [[#S4]] ]
LLZV-RD[Source: [[#S3502]] ]
== Sources ==
* '''"Royal Ancestry" 2013, Douglas Richardson Vol. II. p. 179'''
* '''"Royal Ancestry" 2013, Douglas Richardson Vol. IV. p. 47'''
* ''Medieval Lands'', database online, author Charles Cawley, (Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, 2006-2013), [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#WilliamMarshalPembrokedied1219 7. Joan]
: See also:
* Source: S2 Title: Pedigree Resource File CD 49Abbreviation: Pedigree Resource File CD 49 Publication: (Salt Lake City, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 2002) * Source: S3 Title: Ancestral File (TM) Abbreviation: Ancestral File (TM) Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day SAINTS Publication: June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998* Source: S3502 Title: Type: Ancestral File Number Abbreviation: Type: Ancestral File Number * Source: S4 Title: hofundssonAnces.ged Abbreviation: hofundssonAnces.ged*http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=6601291&pid=1323247683
* [[Wikipedia:William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke]]*http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=16692088&pid=1153408900
=== Joan m. Warin de Munchensi, Lord of Swan ===
Joan m. Warin de Munchensi, Lord of Swanscomb; their dau. Joan (d. by 09-30-1307) m. 08-13-1247 Sir William de Valence (b. ca. 1225/6, d. by 05-18-1296), Lord of Valence, Montignac, Bellac, Rancon and Champagnac, knighted 10-13-1247, Crusader, 4th son of Hugh X "le Brun", Count of Lusignam, and his wife Isabella, widow of King John of Engl.
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.22, 24, 27, 39; BURKE'S PEERAGES (GS NUMBER 942 D22BUG) P.545; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
Preferred Parents:
Father: William Marshall, b. ABT 1146 d. 14 May 1219. 73 yrs old in Caversham Manor, Caversham, Berkshire, England
Mother: Isabel de Clare, b. ABT 1172 d. 11 MAR 1220 in Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales
Family 1: Warun Munchensy, b. ABT 1192 in Gooderstone, Norfolk, England d. ABT 20 JUL 1255
- Joan de Munchensi, b. BET 1222 AND 1230 in Pembroke Castle, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales d. 20 SEP 1307 in Valence, Charente, France
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