Robert Carmynowe

• Preferred Name: Robert Carmynowe^[1]
  
• Gender: M
  
• Fine: BET 1265 AND 1268 in Cornwall, England at LATI: N0.2512 LONG: E5.0668 with note: Description: John Petits & Alice his wife -vs- Stephen Beauchamp Binnerton in Cornwall, held of ROBERT Carminow Book - Journal of Cornwall Institute
  
• Birth: ABT 1185 in Trenowyth, Cornwall, England at LATI: N0.2512 LONG: E5.0668
  
• Death: ABT 1256 in Trenowyth, Cornwall, England at LATI: N0.2512 LONG: E5.0668
  
• FSID: G8H1-R4H
  
• Deed: BET 1235 AND 1245 in Cornwall, England at LATI: N0.2512 LONG: E5.0668 with note: Description: ROBERT Carminow gives & grants all his lands of Trewynian & of Bodanna which he had by the gift of Luke Carminow Thomas Petterin & his heirs to be held of the said ROBERT Carminow Book - Journal of Cornwall Institute
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Biography
  "Lysons truly states that the Carminows of Carminow cannot be traced with any certainty further back than the reign of Henry III. The name does not occur in Domesday, nor in the very full index of names of places and persons in the folio Volumes of the Record Commission, "Placitorum abbreviatio tempore Ed. I- Ed. II," (1189-1327). No other Public Record exists prior to the commencement of Hen. III.'s reign. Robert Carminow, who commences the pedigree, held lands, probably Carminow, by military service, 40 Hen. III, and his son Robert appears to have inherited the adjoining Manor of Wynyanton, as well as that of Merthyn, by his marriage with the heiress of Grervais de Hornacote, who had received it in exchange for the Manor of Boscyny (Bossiney) with Richard, Earl of Cornwall. A glance at the pedigree will also shew the alliances formed with many distinguished families of Devon as well as Cornwall, whose names need not be repeated here : but a few personal distinctions may be noticed. And first and foremost stands the crusader, whose effigy, removed from the chapel at Carminow to the Parish Church of Mawgan in Meneage, as appears in Hals, may still be seen in the Carminow aisle of that Church. In a former number, it has been shown that this was probably the effigy of Sir Roger, who in 1270 accompanied Edwd. I (then Prince) in the last crusade.
  
  "It has been already stated that the family cannot be traced with any certainty farther back than Henry III, but it may very fairly be assumed that they resided at Carminow some generations at least before the marriage of Roger with heiress of Gervais de Hornacote in that reign, for it is not to be supposed that an uppstart would be allowed to form such an alliance : and so far as it is possible to Judge from the few remains of early carved stones which exist, it is probable that a building of some pretension was erected there at least as early as the reign of Henry III.
  
  "Although, as has been already said, the name Carminow is not to be found in Domesday, yet the manor of Caer is mentioned both in the Exchequer Domesday, and in that of Exeter, from which the former is supposed by Sir Henry Ellis to have been compiled. Caer has been shown to have been the earliest form of the first syllable of the family name, and this name of Caer is entered in the Exeter Domesday next in order to that of Winnianton, which it adjoins, just as one would expect to find it placed in the original entry of the itinerant commissioners who were employed in the survey.
  
  "It is very probable, therefore, that Caer may have been Carminow of the present clay, and the actual residence of the family before the conquest."
  
  === AFN 9T3D-JQ DATE 10 JUN 1999 TIME 11:31 ===
  AFN 9T3D-JQ DATE 10 JUN 1999 TIME 11:31:25
  
  === !Pedigree chart from information from hi ===
  !Pedigree chart from information from hired professional researcher for family org.
  
  === Ancestral File Number: 9T3D-JQ ===
  Ancestral File Number: 9T3D-JQ
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  === Life Sketch ===
  Biography
  "Lysons truly states that the Carminows of Carminow cannot be traced with any certainty further back than the reign of Henry III. The name does not occur in Domesday, nor in the very full index of names of places and persons in the folio Volumes of the Record Commission, "Placitorum abbreviatio tempore Ed. I— Ed. II," (1189-1327). No other Public Record exists prior to the commencement of Hen. III.'s reign. Robert Carminow, who commences the pedigree, held lands, probably Carminow, by military service, 40 Hen. III, and his son Robert appears to have inherited the adjoining Manor of Wynyanton, as well as that of Merthyn, by his marriage with the heiress of Grervais de Hornacote, who had received it in exchange for the Manor of Boscyny (Bossiney) with Richard, Earl of Cornwall. A glance at the pedigree will also shew the alliances formed with many distinguished families of Devon as well as Cornwall, whose names need not be repeated here : but a few personal distinctions may be noticed. And first and foremost stands the crusader, whose effigy, removed from the chapel at Carminow to the Parish Church of Mawgan in Meneage, as appears in Hals, may still be seen in the Carminow aisle of that Church. In a former number, it has been shown that this was probably the effigy of Sir Roger, who in 1270 accompanied Edwd. I (then Prince) in the last crusade.
  
  "It has been already stated that the family cannot be traced with any certainty farther back than Henry III, but it may very fairly be assumed that they resided at Carminow some generations at least before the marriage of Roger with heiress of Gervais de Hornacote in that reign, for it is not to be supposed that an uppstart would be allowed to form such an alliance : and so far as it is possible to Judge from the few remains of early carved stones which exist, it is probable that a building of some pretension was erected there at least as early as the reign of Henry III.
  
  "Although, as has been already said, the name Carminow is not to be found in Domesday, yet the manor of Caer is mentioned both in the Exchequer Domesday, and in that of Exeter, from which the former is supposed by Sir Henry Ellis to have been compiled. Caer has been shown to have been the earliest form of the first syllable of the family name, and this name of Caer is entered in the Exeter Domesday next in order to that of Winnianton, which it adjoins, just as one would expect to find it placed in the original entry of the itinerant commissioners who were employed in the survey.
  
  "It is very probable, therefore, that Caer may have been Carminow of the present clay, and the actual residence of the family before the conquest."
  
  === !Pedigree chart from information from hi ===
  !Pedigree chart from information from hired professional researcher for family org.
  
  === AFN 9T3D-JQ DATE 10 JUN 1999 TIME 11:31 ===
  AFN 9T3D-JQ DATE 10 JUN 1999 TIME 11:31:25
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === Ancestral File Number: 9T3D-JQ ===
  Ancestral File Number: 9T3D-JQ

1. Roger Carmynow, b. ABT 1210 in Trenowyth, Cornwall, England     d. ABT 1287 in St Mewan, Cornwall, England

1. Title: Robert De Carminowe, "Find A Grave Index"
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