Gundred de Warenne

• Preferred Name: Gundred de Warenne^{[1] [2] [3]}
  
• Gender: F
  
• FSID: 9ZH3-74Q
  
• Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Gundred-de-Warenne-Countess-of-Warwick/6000000004828308499
  
• Birth: ABT 1117 in Downham West, Norfolk, England at LATI: N2.6 LONG: E0.3667
  
• Death: ABT 1179 in Whitchurch, Devon, England at LATI: N0.5372 LONG: E4.1044 with note: Visitations of Devon, page 396
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Her parents ARE:
  WILLIAM II de Warenne, son of WILLIAM I de Warenne Earl of Surrey & his first wife Gundred ( -11 May 1138, bur Lewes Priory).
  
  Orderic Vitalis records that, after the death of Williame de Warenne Earl of Surrey, “præfati consulis filii Guillelmus et Rainaldus” succeeded “cum Gundreda matre sua” [incorrect, as their mother was already deceased], dated to 1089. "Willelmo et Reynaldo filiis et heredibus meis" are named in the charter of "Willelmus de Warenna…Surreie comes" dated 1080.
  
  He succeeded his father in 1088 as Earl of Surrey, though usually styled Earl de Warenne. He supported Robert Duke of Normandy in 1101 against his brother Henry I King of England, who confiscated his lands in England in consequence although they were restored in 1103. "…Guillaume comte de Varennes…" witnessed the undated charter under which Robert III Duke of Normandy donated property to Saint-Etienne de Caen. "Guillelmus filius Guillelmi de Vuarenna" confirmed donations of property to Saint-Victor-en-Caux by "patre meo", for the soul of "uxoris mee Ysabel", by undated charter (a copy of which is attached to a late-12th century transcription of a charter under which Hugh de Mortimer confirmed donations to the monastery), witnessed by "Gislebertus de Grenosavilla, Ysabel comitissa, Radulfus filius comitis…".
  “W comes de Warenna et Isabella comitissa uxor mea necnon filii nostri Willelmus…et Radulfus” donated property to Castle Acre Priory by undated charter[1151]. The necrology of Longpont records the death “V Id Mai” of “Guillermus comes de Garenna”.
  
  m (1118) second, ISABELLE [Elisabeth] de Vermandois, widow of ROBERT de Beaumont Comte de Meulan, Earl of Leicester, daughter of HUGUES de France Comte de Vermandois et de Valois [Capet] & his wife Adelais Ctss de Vermandois [Carolingian] ([before 1088]
  17 Feb 1131, bur Lewes Priory). Guillaume of Jumièges records that ”secundus Willelmus de Warenna comes Surreiæ...tertius Willelmus filius eius” was born to “Elizabeth filia Hugonis Magni comitis Viromandorum”, who had first married “Roberto comiti Mellenti” by whom she had “tres filios et totidem filias”.
  
  William de Warenne donated property to St Faith, Longueville by charter dated to 1130, witnessed by "Ysabel comitissa uxor comitis et Willelmo et Radulfo filii eorum". “W comes de Warenna et Isabella comitissa uxor mea necnon filii nostri Willelmus…et Radulfus” donated property to Castle Acre Priory by undated charter.
  
  William II & his wife had five children:
  
  2. GUNDRED ([1120 or after]-after 1166). Guillaume of Jumièges records that ”Walerannus et Robertus...mater eorum” married secondly after the death of her first husband “secundo Willelmo de Warenna comiti Surreiæ” by whom she had “Willelmum tertium et duas filias” of whom “filiarum...primogenitam” married “comes Rogerus de Warwic”. Robert of Torigny names "Gondrada sorore uterine Galeranni comitis Mellenti" as wife of "Rogero comite Warwicensi".
  
  An undated manuscript relating to Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire records that “Willielmum de Lancaster” married ”Gundredam prius comitissam de Warwyke”.
  
  Her second marriage is confirmed by a
  charter of King Henry II which records that “primus Willielmum de Lancaster, baronem de Kendale, qui prius vocabatur de Tailboys” married “Gundredam comitissam Warwic” and that she was the mother of his son William.
  
  Her second marriage date is dictated by the death of her first husband, recorded in Jun 1153. "Willelmus de Lancastre" donated property to Leicester, St Mary de Pré, with the consent of "Willelmi filii mei et hæredis et Gundredæ uxoris meæ", by charter dated to 1153/56. "Willelmus de Lancastre" donated pasture rights in "feodum meum in Lonisdale et in Aumundernesse" to Leicester, St Mary de Pré, with the consent of "Willelmi filii mei et heredis et Gundree uxoris mee", for the souls of "…Gilberti patris mei et Godithe matris mee et Jordani filii mei et Margarete filia Comitisse", by charter dated to 1156/60, witnessed by "Willelmo filio meo et herede, Gundr fil Comitisse…".
  
  Farrer has suggested that the wording of this last document indicates that the wife of William de Lancaster was the daughter of Countess Gundred rather than the countess herself, suggesting that the latter must have been "well advanced in years" at the time of the marriage and implying that she would therefore have been past child-bearing age. It is correct that the wording of the document is curious as it appears inconsistent with both possibilities: if Gundred was "Comitisse", one would expect the first part of the document to read "Gundree Comitisse uxoris mee"; on the other hand, if she was Gundred the daughter, one would expect the subscription to read "Gundr fil Comitisse ux mee". The two names which are quoted above in the subscription list of the document dated to 1156/60 precede the subscribers who held religious positions. It would therefore be normal for them to be the same persons who are named in the body of the document, in the same order, giving their consent to the transaction. However, it is difficult to adopt an interpretation which contradicts the three different sources quoted above (Robert de Torigny, the undated manuscript, and the charter of King Henry II) which identify the countess as William’s wife.
  
  m firstly ROGER de Beaumont Earl of Warwick, son of HENRY de Beaumont Earl of Warwick & his wife Marguerite du Perche (-12 Jun 1153).
  
  m secondly (Jun 1153/1156) as his second wife, WILLIAM I de Lancaster "Taillebois", son of GILBERT & his wife Goditha ---. Lord of Kendale and Lonsdale in Westmoreland in 1166.
  
  http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#GundredWarenneM1RogerBeaumontWarwick
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  Gundred or Gundreda (Latin: Gundrada)
  Claims based in part on the non-contemporary Lewes Priory cartulary[a] suggested Gundred was a daughter of William the Conqueror by his spouse Matilda of Flanders, but this is not accepted by most modern historians. The early-19th-century writer Thomas Stapleton had argued she was a daughter of Matilda born prior to her marriage to Duke William. This theory sparked a debate consisting of a series of published papers. It culminated with those of Edmond Chester Waters and Edward Augustus Freeman, who argued the theories could not be supported. Nonetheless, this purported relationship between Gundred and the Conqueror continues to appear, despite being dismissed by modern scholars.
  
  For sources see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gundred,_Countess_of_Surrey
  
  the Peerage - Person Page - 36764 #367637 Gundred de Warenne
  Gundred de Warenne1
  F, #367637, b. circa 1120, d. 1166
  Last Edited=10 Feb 2011
  Gundred de Warenne was born circa 1120.2 She was the daughter of William II de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey and Eliza
  
  === There are Two Gundred de Warennes ===
  BE CAREFUL there are 2 Gundrada de Warenne's who are contemporaries. This one did NOT marry William de Courcy, but she DID married Roger de Beaumont and William de Lancaster.
  
  === Louis Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees pp 30 ===
  Louis Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees pp 30,28
  === Life Sketch ===
  Her parents ARE:
  WILLIAM II de Warenne, son of WILLIAM I de Warenne Earl of Surrey & his first wife Gundred ( -11 May 1138, bur Lewes Priory).
  
  Orderic Vitalis records that, after the death of Williame de Warenne Earl of Surrey, “præfati consulis filii Guillelmus et Rainaldus” succeeded “cum Gundreda matre sua” [incorrect, as their mother was already deceased], dated to 1089. "Willelmo et Reynaldo filiis et heredibus meis" are named in the charter of "Willelmus de Warenna…Surreie comes" dated 1080.
  
  He succeeded his father in 1088 as Earl of Surrey, though usually styled Earl de Warenne. He supported Robert Duke of Normandy in 1101 against his brother Henry I King of England, who confiscated his lands in England in consequence although they were restored in 1103. "…Guillaume comte de Varennes…" witnessed the undated charter under which Robert III Duke of Normandy donated property to Saint-Etienne de Caen. "Guillelmus filius Guillelmi de Vuarenna" confirmed donations of property to Saint-Victor-en-Caux by "patre meo", for the soul of "uxoris mee Ysabel", by undated charter (a copy of which is attached to a late-12th century transcription of a charter under which Hugh de Mortimer confirmed donations to the monastery), witnessed by "Gislebertus de Grenosavilla, Ysabel comitissa, Radulfus filius comitis…".
  “W comes de Warenna et Isabella comitissa uxor mea necnon filii nostri Willelmus…et Radulfus” donated property to Castle Acre Priory by undated charter[1151]. The necrology of Longpont records the death “V Id Mai” of “Guillermus comes de Garenna”.
  
  m (1118) second, ISABELLE [Elisabeth] de Vermandois, widow of ROBERT de Beaumont Comte de Meulan, Earl of Leicester, daughter of HUGUES de France Comte de Vermandois et de Valois [Capet] & his wife Adelais Ctss de Vermandois [Carolingian] ([before 1088]
  17 Feb 1131, bur Lewes Priory). Guillaume of Jumièges records that ”secundus Willelmus de Warenna comes Surreiæ...tertius Willelmus filius eius” was born to “Elizabeth filia Hugonis Magni comitis Viromandorum”, who had first married “Roberto comiti Mellenti” by whom she had “tres filios et totidem filias”.
  
  William de Warenne donated property to St Faith, Longueville by charter dated to 1130, witnessed by "Ysabel comitissa uxor comitis et Willelmo et Radulfo filii eorum". “W comes de Warenna et Isabella comitissa uxor mea necnon filii nostri Willelmus…et Radulfus” donated property to Castle Acre Priory by undated charter.
  
  William II & his wife had five children:
  
  2. GUNDRED ([1120 or after]-after 1166). Guillaume of Jumièges records that ”Walerannus et Robertus...mater eorum” married secondly after the death of her first husband “secundo Willelmo de Warenna comiti Surreiæ” by whom she had “Willelmum tertium et duas filias” of whom “filiarum...primogenitam” married “comes Rogerus de Warwic”. Robert of Torigny names "Gondrada sorore uterine Galeranni comitis Mellenti" as wife of "Rogero comite Warwicensi".
  
  An undated manuscript relating to Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire records that “Willielmum de Lancaster” married ”Gundredam prius comitissam de Warwyke”.
  
  Her second marriage is confirmed by a
  charter of King Henry II which records that “primus Willielmum de Lancaster, baronem de Kendale, qui prius vocabatur de Tailboys” married “Gundredam comitissam Warwic” and that she was the mother of his son William.
  
  Her second marriage date is dictated by the death of her first husband, recorded in Jun 1153. "Willelmus de Lancastre" donated property to Leicester, St Mary de Pré, with the consent of "Willelmi filii mei et hæredis et Gundredæ uxoris meæ", by charter dated to 1153/56. "Willelmus de Lancastre" donated pasture rights in "feodum meum in Lonisdale et in Aumundernesse" to Leicester, St Mary de Pré, with the consent of "Willelmi filii mei et heredis et Gundree uxoris mee", for the souls of "…Gilberti patris mei et Godithe matris mee et Jordani filii mei et Margarete filia Comitisse", by charter dated to 1156/60, witnessed by "Willelmo filio meo et herede, Gundr fil Comitisse…".
  
  Farrer has suggested that the wording of this last document indicates that the wife of William de Lancaster was the daughter of Countess Gundred rather than the countess herself, suggesting that the latter must have been "well advanced in years" at the time of the marriage and implying that she would therefore have been past child-bearing age. It is correct that the wording of the document is curious as it appears inconsistent with both possibilities: if Gundred was "Comitisse", one would expect the first part of the document to read "Gundree Comitisse uxoris mee"; on the other hand, if she was Gundred the daughter, one would expect the subscription to read "Gundr fil Comitisse ux mee". The two names which are quoted above in the subscription list of the document dated to 1156/60 precede the subscribers who held religious positions. It would therefore be normal for them to be the same persons who are named in the body of the document, in the same order, giving their consent to the transaction. However, it is difficult to adopt an interpretation which contradicts the three different sources quoted above (Robert de Torigny, the undated manuscript, and the charter of King Henry II) which identify the countess as William’s wife.
  
  m firstly ROGER de Beaumont Earl of Warwick, son of HENRY de Beaumont Earl of Warwick & his wife Marguerite du Perche (-12 Jun 1153).
  
  m secondly (Jun 1153/1156) as his second wife, WILLIAM I de Lancaster "Taillebois", son of GILBERT & his wife Goditha ---. Lord of Kendale and Lonsdale in Westmoreland in 1166.
  
  http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#GundredWarenneM1RogerBeaumontWarwick
  -------------------------------------------------
  Gundred or Gundreda (Latin: Gundrada)
  Claims based in part on the non-contemporary Lewes Priory cartulary[a] suggested Gundred was a daughter of William the Conqueror by his spouse Matilda of Flanders, but this is not accepted by most modern historians. The early-19th-century writer Thomas Stapleton had argued she was a daughter of Matilda born prior to her marriage to Duke William. This theory sparked a debate consisting of a series of published papers. It culminated with those of Edmond Chester Waters and Edward Augustus Freeman, who argued the theories could not be supported. Nonetheless, this purported relationship between Gundred and the Conqueror continues to appear, despite being dismissed by modern scholars.
  
  For sources see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gundred,_Countess_of_Surrey
  
  the Peerage - Person Page - 36764 #367637 Gundred de Warenne
  Gundred de Warenne1
  F, #367637, b. circa 1120, d. 1166
  Last Edited=10 Feb 2011
  Gundred de Warenne was born circa 1120.2 She was the daughter of William II de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey and Eliza
  
  === There are Two Gundred de Warennes ===
  BE CAREFUL there are 2 Gundrada de Warenne's who are contemporaries. This one did NOT marry William de Courcy, but she DID married Roger de Beaumont and William de Lancaster.
  
  === Louis Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees pp 30 ===
  Louis Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees pp 30,28

1. William de Lancaster II, b. ABT 1155 in Cumberland, England     d. 1184
2. Avice (Avicia) de Lancaster, b. ABT 1155     d. 1 JAN 1190/91

• m. ABT 1136

1. Waleran de Beaumont 4th Earl of Warwick, b. BEF 1153 in Warwickshire, England     d. BEF 13 OCT 1204 in England
2. William de Beaumont, b. ABT 1139 in Warwickshire, England     d. 15 NOV 1184 in Palestine, Kingdom of Jerusalem
3. Waleran de Newburg, b. ABT 1140     d. BEF 13 OCT 1204
4. Avicia de Lancaster, b. 1134 in Kendal, Westmorland, England     d. 1 JAN 1191 in Kirkoswald, Cumberland, England
5. Agnes Beaumont, b. ABT 1135 in Warwickshire, England     d. ABT 1200

1. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Unknown Warenne - Published information: birth-name: Unknown Warenne
   Note: Published information: birth-name: Unknown Warenne Published information: female Published information: birth: about 1100; Great Torrington, Devonshire, England, United Kingdom
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2036922561
   
2. Title: A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire
   Author: Burke, Sir Bernard, LL.D., A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire, Burke's Peerage, Limited, London, 1866.
   Note: Source Media Type: Book. [PFT:AQ] [S:Titl] A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire [S:Auth] Burke, Sir Bernard, LL.D. [S:AbbrA] [S:Publ] Burke's Peerage, Limited, London, 1866 [S:Note] Source Media Type: Book [/PFT]
   
3. Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
   Author: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
   Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#GundredWarenneM1RogerBeaumontWarwick;