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Robert de Tregoz II
- Preferred Name: Robert de Tregoz II[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]
- Gender: M
- FSID: KZ2X-JRT
- Death: 4 AUG 1265 in Evesham, Worcestershire, England at LATI: N2.0924 LONG: E1.947 with note: Died in the Battle of Evesham on 4 August 1265.
- Birth: 1190 in Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England at LATI: N1.9513 LONG: E2.8934 with note: GEDCOM data
- Cause+of+Death: 1268 with note: Description: Killed in the Battle of Evesham
- Burial: 1265 in Little Dunmow, Essex, England at LATI: N1.8684 LONG: E0.4078
- Alt.+Death+Information: 24 SEP 1268 with note: Description: 24 September 1268
Survived the merge.
- Alt.+Birth+and+Death+Information: with note: Description: Birth: Abt 1199 Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England OR Hereford, Herefordshire, England AND Death: Worcester, Worcestershire, England
Survived the merge.
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Baron of Ewyas Harold
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“ROBERT DE TREGOZ, Knt., of Ewyas Harold and Eaton (in Foy), Herefordshire, Allington and Lydiard Tregoze and Tytherton Lucas, Wiltshire, etc., son and heir. He did homage to the king 1 July 1236 as "son and heir of Sibyl de Ewias" for those lands which the said Sibyl held in chief of the king. In 1243 he held Eaton, Herefordshire of the king as of the honour of Ewyas.
He married before 1 August 1245 JULIANE DE CANTELOWE, daughter of William de Cantelowe, Knt., of Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, Steward of the Royal Household, by his 1st wife, Milicent de Gournay, Countess of Gloucester, daughter of Hugh de Gournay, seigneur of Gournay-en-Brie, Wendover, Buckinghamshire, Houghton, Bedfordshire, etc. [see CANTELOWE 4 for her ancestry]. Her maritagium included the manor of Great Doddington, Northamptonshire.
They had one son,
1. John, Knt. [Lord Tregoz],
and allegedly one daughter,
2. Lucy (said to be wife of John le Strange, of Knockin, Shropshire).
He was closely associated with King Henry III. In 1256 the king gave him some deer from Braydon Forest to restock his park at Lydiard, Wiltshire. He was summoned for service in Wales in 1258-64. In October 1261 he was among the trusted tenants whom the King, faced with the opposition of Simon de Montfort, called to London.
SIR ROBERT DE TREGOZ died shortly before 24 Sept. 1268. In October 1268 his widow, Juliane, was granted the manors of Allington, Wiltshire and Eaton, Herefordshire as her dower by her son, John de Tregoz, Knt. She was living 6 August 1285.
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... slain at the battle of Evesham, 4th Aug. 1265, 49th Hen. III; having had to wife Juliana daughter of William Lord Cantilupe (by Milicent his wife, daughter of Hugh de Gournai, widow of Almeric Earl of Evreux); which Juliana brought the manor of Great Dodington, in Northamptonshire, into the Tregoze family, and bare her husband two children. Sir Robert Tregoze's Inq. post mort. was made 49th Hen. III. where a list of his estates may be seen. By the Roll of Arms, compiled between 1240 and 1245, we find that this Sir Robert de Tregoze bore, " Gules, three bars gemels or, a lion passant in chief of the same."
His issue were
I. Sir John TREGOZE, his heir.
I. Lucy Tregoze, married to John Lord L'Estrange, of Knokyn, in Shropshire, sheriff of that county 21 Hen. III. and Governor of Montreuil, Bruges (Bridgnorth), and Ellesmere castles. By him she was mother of John L'Estrange, who perpetuated the line of the Barons L' Estrange, of Knokyn.
http://fmg.ac/phocadownload/userupload/scanned-sources/tpg2/pp124-136.pdf
Memorial
Robert II de Tregoz, Baron of Ewyas Harold joined the baronial banner in the reign of Henry III.2 He held barony of Ewyas Harold at Herefordshire, England.3 He was born circa 1194. He was the son of R
Memorial
Robert de Tregoz, son and heir of Robert de Tregoz.
In Oct 1261, he was among the trusted tenants whom the King, faced with the opposition of Simon de Montfort, called to London. He afterwards was sla
=== V M Norr: Some Early English Pedigrees ===
V M Norr: Some Early English Pedigrees P 113
=== Robert de Tregoz, who had a military sum ===
Robert de Tregoz, who had a military summons to march against the Welsh in the 42nd Henry III [1258], but joining the baronial banner in the same reign, he fell at the battle of Evesham, leaving by Julia, his wife, dau. of William, Lord Cantelupe, two sons, viz., John, his heir, and Henry, of Goring, summoned to parliament. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 537, Tregoz, Baron Tregoz]
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ROBERT DE TREGOZ, son and heir, was closely associated with Henry III; and for many years, 1226-41, received £20 per annum "to keep him in the royal service." He had a protection to go to Brittany, April 1230, and was in Gascony, 1242-43, and again in 1253-54; a Commissioner to view royal castles in Wilts, 1241; was granted quittance of common summons in Hants, 1256 and 1262, Notts, 1257, Northants, 1262, and Wilts and Somerset, 1267; was ordered to aid the Earl of Hereford to protect the Marches, 1257; and was summoned for service in Wales, 1258, 1260, 1263 and 1264. In October 1261 he was among the trusted tenants whom the King, faced with the opposition of Simon de Montfort, called to London. He confirmed the foundation of a house of regular canons at Albury, in Send, Surrey, and was patron of the priory on the Isle of Steepholm, in the Bristol Channel.
He married presumably before 1 August 1245, Juliane, daughter of William DE CAUNTELO (died 1251), by Milicent, widow of Amauri (DE MONTFORT), COUNT OF EVREUX, daughter of Hugh DE GURNAY (GORNAI). Robert died shortly before 24 September 1268. Juliane was living on 6 August 1285. [Complete Peerage XII/2:18-20, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
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The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 26 Apr 1998, by Dave Utzinger:
From: UTZ (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: TREGOZE, part 3
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/04/26
Sir Robert Tregoze, Knt. eldest son and heir, succeeded his father in his immense Wiltshire and Herefordshire possessions, and was Baron Tregoze of Lydiard Tregoze, in the former county, and Lord of Ewyas Harold in the latter, in right of his mother. , He did homage and had livery of his mother"s estates in Herefordshire, 20 Hen. III (1236) paying 100?. for his relief. He was living 40 Hen. III; and two years after was summoned to march algainst the Welsh ; but joining the rebellious Barons of this reign, the same year, was slain at the battle of Evesham, 4th Aug. 1265, 49th Hen. III; having had to wife Juliana, daughter of William Lord Cantilupe (by Milicent his wife, daughter of Hugh de Gournai, widow of Almeric Earl of Evreux); which Juliana brought the. manor of Great Dodington, in Northamptonshire, into the Tregoze family, and bare her husband two children. Sir Robert Tregoze's Inq. post mort. was made 49th Hen. III. where a list of his estates may be seen. By the Roll of Arms, compiled between 1240 and 1245, we find that this Sir Robert de Tregoze bore, "Gules, three bars gemels or, a lion passant in chief of the same." His issue were John. [The Topographer and Genealogist, Volume II, 1853]
=== A24871-4 B 22 Topographer and Genealogis ===
A24871-4 B 22 Topographer and Genealogist 2:125-126
=== Biography ===
ROBERT [II] de Tresgoz (-before 24 Sep 1268). The Fine Rolls record the homage of “Robti Tresgoz fil et hered Sybil de Ewyas” 1 Jul 1236[283]. “Robert Tregoz the younger” donated “the whole fosse which is between the land which belonged to Walter de Welynton and the water which is called Duneleis” to Ewias Priory by charter dated to [1235/65] witnessed by “William my brother...”[284]. m (before 1 Aug 1245) JULIANE de Cauntelo, daughter of WILLIAM de Cauntelo & his wife Melisende de Gournay (-after 1282). “Richard de Ewias son of John de Ewias” granted certain rents in Foy to “Juliana de Tregoz widow of Robert de Tregoz” by charter dated to [1265/85][285]. "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" wrote to "son frère St Thomas de Cantlow, Euesque…de Hereford" and names her son "John Tresgoos" married "la reyne Blanch" [widow of Louis VIII King of France, such a second marriage being impossible chronologically] and had "un fils…Hugh…nostre ayle", who married "la soer le count Renaud de Boloyng", whose daughter "Milsent nostre mere" married "a Count de Euoyse en Normandy" by whom she had one son and one daughter, before marrying "Will de Cantelow nostre pere"[286]. Robert [II] & his wife had two children:
i) JOHN de Tresgoz (-before 6 Sep 1300). "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" wrote to "son frère St Thomas de Cantlow, Euesque…de Hereford" and names her son "John Tresgoos" married "la reyne Blanch" [widow of Louis VIII King of France, such a second marriage being impossible chronologically] and had "un fils…Hugh…nostre ayle", who married "la soer le count Renaud de Boloyng", whose daughter "Milsent nostre mere" married "a Count de Euoyse en Normandy" by whom she had one son and one daughter, before marrying "Will de Cantelow nostre pere"[287]. He was summoned to parliament in 1297 whereby he is held to have become Lord Tresgoz. A writ dated 6 Sep "28 Edw I", after the death of "John Tregoz alias de Tregoz", names "John la Warre his grandson (nepos) […aged 24, son of Clarice la Warre his eldest daughter who is dead…married to Roger la War] and Sibyl the wife of William de Grauntcoun (alias de Grandissono) his […younger] daughter […aged 30 and more] both aged 21 and more are his next heirs"[288]. m firstly as her second husband, MABEL, widow of WILLIAM de Crèvecœur, daughter of FULK [IV] FitzWarin & his [first/second] wife [--- de Clifford/Constance de Tosny] (-before 24 May 1297). "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" records that her son "John Tresgoos" married "Mabill file a noble…chevalier Foulk Fitz-Warren qui avoit a feme le soer Sr Rog de Clifford"[289]. It is suggested that the last reference to Mabel’s mother as a member of the Clifford family represents an error. If it is correct, John de Tresgoz and his wife would have been very closely related, presumably first cousins, as Roger [II] de Clifford and John de Tresgoz’s father were uterine brothers. From a chronological point of view, it is likely that Mabel was the daughter of Fulk FitzWarin [IV], whose recorded wife was Constance de Tosny, although it is possible that she was born from an otherwise unrecorded earlier marriage to a member of the Clifford family. A writ dated 24 May "25 Edw I", after the death of "Mabel late the wife of John Tregoz", records in relation to Weston that it was "held in free marriage of the barony of Averenchis…[by] Maud daughter of and heir of William de Averenchis the elder…Hamo le Creveker married her and they gave the manor to William their son and heir in free marriage with the said Mabel. This William died without heir of his body", names as heirs of "[the said Maud] Juliana daughter of John son of Agnes one of the daughters of the said Hamo and Maud aged 23 and more, John de Lenham son of Iseut the second of the daughters of the said Hamo and Maud aged 60 and more"[290]. m secondly as her first husband, JOAN de Cokefield, daughter of ADAM de Cokefield of Feltwell, Norfolk and Moulton, Suffolk & his wife Joan --- (-before 7 Apr 1354). She married secondly (before 28 Feb 1301) Laurence de Hameldene, and thirdly ([1313/14] or before) William de Beauchamp. John & his first wife had two children:
(a) CLARISSA de Tresgoz (-[Apr 1289/6 Sep 1300]). "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" names "Clarissa" as the elder daughter of "John Tresgoos" and his wife, adding that she married "Sr Roger la Ware"[291]. A writ dated 6 Sep "28 Edw I", after the death of "John Tregoz alias de Tregoz", names "John la Warre his grandson (nepos) […aged 24, son of Clarice la Warre his eldest daughter who is dead…married to Roger la War] and Sibyl the wife of William de Grauntcoun (alias de Grandissono) his […younger] daughter […aged 30 and more] both aged 21 and more are his next heirs"[292]. m (Sep 1276 or before) ROGER la Warre, son of JOHN la Warre & his wife Olimpia de Fokington (-20 Jun 1320). He was summoned to parliament in 1299 whereby he is held to have become Lord La Warre.
(b) SIBYLLA de Tresgoz ([before 1270]-21 Oct 1334, bur Dore Abbey). "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" names "Sibill" as the second daughter of "John Tresgoos" and his wife, adding that she married "Sr Will de Grantson chivaller de Burgon"[293]. A writ dated 6 Sep "28 Edw I", after the death of "John Tregoz alias de Tregoz", names "John la Warre his grandson (nepos) […aged 24, son of Clarice la Warre his eldest daughter who is dead…married to Roger la War] and Sibyl the wife of William de Grauntcoun (alias de Grandissono) his […younger] daughter […aged 30 and more] both aged 21 and more are his next heirs"[294]. m ([1285]) as his second wife, GUILLAUME de Grandson, son of PIERRE Seigneur de Grandson & his wife Agnes de Neuchâtel (-27 Jun 1335). He was summoned to the English parliament from 1299 whereby he is held to have become Lord Grandson [Grandison][295].
ii) --- de Tresgoz . His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated to [1265/1300] under which [his son] “John Tregoz” donated “a certain road leading from my garden, which I had from John Tregoz my uncle, to the Street which is called Vriogis-strete” to Ewias Priory[296]. m ---. One child:
(a) JOHN Tregoz . “John Tregoz” donated “a certain road leading from my garden, which I had from John Tregoz my uncle, to the Street which is called Vriogis-strete” to Ewias Priory by charter dated to [1265/1300.
[Source: Medieval Lands, ROBERT [II] de Tresgoz", retrtieved 27 November 2018, dvmansur; see link in Sources.]
** from Complete Peerage (GEC) v 12 pt 2 pp 18+
Tregoz. Robert de Tregoz, son and heir, was closely associated with Henry III; and for many years, 1226-41, received L20 p.a. "to keep him in the royal service." He had a protection to go to Brittany, Apr. 1230, and was in Gascony, 1242-43, and again in 1253-54; a Commissiner to view royal castles in Witls, 1241; was granted quittance of common summons in Hants, 1256 and 1262, Notts, 1257, Northants, 1262, and Wilts and Somerset, 1267; was ordered to aid the Earl of Hereford to protect the Marches, 1257; and was summoned for service in Wales, 1258, 1260, 1263 and 1264. In Oct 1261 he was among the trusted tenants whom the King, faced with the opposition of Simon de Montfort, called to London. He confirmed the foundation of a house of regular canons at Albury, in Send, Surrey, and was patron of the priory on the isle of Steepholm, in the Bristol Channel.
He married, presumably before 1 Aug 1245, Juliane, duaghter of William de Cauntelo (d. 1251), by Milicent, widow of Amauri (de Montfort), Count of Evreux, daughter of Hugh de Gurnay (Gornai). Robert died shortly before 24 Sep 1268. Juliane was living on 6 Aug 1285.
=== Life Sketch ===
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“ROBERT DE TREGOZ, Knt., of Ewyas Harold and Eaton (in Foy), Herefordshire, Allington and Lydiard Tregoze and Tytherton Lucas, Wiltshire, etc., son and heir. He did homage to the king 1 July 1236 as "son and heir of Sibyl de Ewias" for those lands which the said Sibyl held in chief of the king. In 1243 he held Eaton, Herefordshire of the king as of the honour of Ewyas.
He married before 1 August 1245 JULIANE DE CANTELOWE, daughter of William de Cantelowe, Knt., of Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, Steward of the Royal Household, by his 1st wife, Milicent de Gournay, Countess of Gloucester, daughter of Hugh de Gournay, seigneur of Gournay-en-Brie, Wendover, Buckinghamshire, Houghton, Bedfordshire, etc. [see CANTELOWE 4 for her ancestry]. Her maritagium included the manor of Great Doddington, Northamptonshire.
They had one son,
1. John, Knt. [Lord Tregoz],
and allegedly one daughter,
2. Lucy (said to be wife of John le Strange, of Knockin, Shropshire).
He was closely associated with King Henry III. In 1256 the king gave him some deer from Braydon Forest to restock his park at Lydiard, Wiltshire. He was summoned for service in Wales in 1258-64. In October 1261 he was among the trusted tenants whom the King, faced with the opposition of Simon de Montfort, called to London.
SIR ROBERT DE TREGOZ died shortly before 24 Sept. 1268. In October 1268 his widow, Juliane, was granted the manors of Allington, Wiltshire and Eaton, Herefordshire as her dower by her son, John de Tregoz, Knt. She was living 6 August 1285.
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... slain at the battle of Evesham, 4th Aug. 1265, 49th Hen. III; having had to wife Juliana daughter of William Lord Cantilupe (by Milicent his wife, daughter of Hugh de Gournai, widow of Almeric Earl of Evreux); which Juliana brought the manor of Great Dodington, in Northamptonshire, into the Tregoze family, and bare her husband two children. Sir Robert Tregoze's Inq. post mort. was made 49th Hen. III. where a list of his estates may be seen. By the Roll of Arms, compiled between 1240 and 1245, we find that this Sir Robert de Tregoze bore, " Gules, three bars gemels or, a lion passant in chief of the same."
His issue were
I. Sir John TREGOZE, his heir.
I. Lucy Tregoze, married to John Lord L'Estrange, of Knokyn, in Shropshire, sheriff of that county 21 Hen. III. and Governor of Montreuil, Bruges (Bridgnorth), and Ellesmere castles. By him she was mother of John L'Estrange, who perpetuated the line of the Barons L' Estrange, of Knokyn.
http://fmg.ac/phocadownload/userupload/scanned-sources/tpg2/pp124-136.pdf
Memorial
Robert II de Tregoz, Baron of Ewyas Harold joined the baronial banner in the reign of Henry III.2 He held barony of Ewyas Harold at Herefordshire, England.3 He was born circa 1194. He was the son of R
Memorial
Robert de Tregoz, son and heir of Robert de Tregoz.
In Oct 1261, he was among the trusted tenants whom the King, faced with the opposition of Simon de Montfort, called to London. He afterwards was sla
=== Robert de Tregoz, who had a military sum ===
Robert de Tregoz, who had a military summons to march against the Welsh in the 42nd Henry III [1258], but joining the baronial banner in the same reign, he fell at the battle of Evesham, leaving by Julia, his wife, dau. of William, Lord Cantelupe, two sons, viz., John, his heir, and Henry, of Goring, summoned to parliament. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 537, Tregoz, Baron Tregoz]
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ROBERT DE TREGOZ, son and heir, was closely associated with Henry III; and for many years, 1226-41, received £20 per annum "to keep him in the royal service." He had a protection to go to Brittany, April 1230, and was in Gascony, 1242-43, and again in 1253-54; a Commissioner to view royal castles in Wilts, 1241; was granted quittance of common summons in Hants, 1256 and 1262, Notts, 1257, Northants, 1262, and Wilts and Somerset, 1267; was ordered to aid the Earl of Hereford to protect the Marches, 1257; and was summoned for service in Wales, 1258, 1260, 1263 and 1264. In October 1261 he was among the trusted tenants whom the King, faced with the opposition of Simon de Montfort, called to London. He confirmed the foundation of a house of regular canons at Albury, in Send, Surrey, and was patron of the priory on the Isle of Steepholm, in the Bristol Channel.
He married presumably before 1 August 1245, Juliane, daughter of William DE CAUNTELO (died 1251), by Milicent, widow of Amauri (DE MONTFORT), COUNT OF EVREUX, daughter of Hugh DE GURNAY (GORNAI). Robert died shortly before 24 September 1268. Juliane was living on 6 August 1285. [Complete Peerage XII/2:18-20, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
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The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 26 Apr 1998, by Dave Utzinger:
From: UTZ (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: TREGOZE, part 3
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/04/26
Sir Robert Tregoze, Knt. eldest son and heir, succeeded his father in his immense Wiltshire and Herefordshire possessions, and was Baron Tregoze of Lydiard Tregoze, in the former county, and Lord of Ewyas Harold in the latter, in right of his mother. , He did homage and had livery of his mother"s estates in Herefordshire, 20 Hen. III (1236) paying 100?. for his relief. He was living 40 Hen. III; and two years after was summoned to march algainst the Welsh ; but joining the rebellious Barons of this reign, the same year, was slain at the battle of Evesham, 4th Aug. 1265, 49th Hen. III; having had to wife Juliana, daughter of William Lord Cantilupe (by Milicent his wife, daughter of Hugh de Gournai, widow of Almeric Earl of Evreux); which Juliana brought the. manor of Great Dodington, in Northamptonshire, into the Tregoze family, and bare her husband two children. Sir Robert Tregoze's Inq. post mort. was made 49th Hen. III. where a list of his estates may be seen. By the Roll of Arms, compiled between 1240 and 1245, we find that this Sir Robert de Tregoze bore, "Gules, three bars gemels or, a lion passant in chief of the same." His issue were John. [The Topographer and Genealogist, Volume II, 1853]
=== Biography ===
ROBERT [II] de Tresgoz (-before 24 Sep 1268). The Fine Rolls record the homage of “Robti Tresgoz fil et hered Sybil de Ewyas” 1 Jul 1236[283]. “Robert Tregoz the younger” donated “the whole fosse which is between the land which belonged to Walter de Welynton and the water which is called Duneleis” to Ewias Priory by charter dated to [1235/65] witnessed by “William my brother...”[284]. m (before 1 Aug 1245) JULIANE de Cauntelo, daughter of WILLIAM de Cauntelo & his wife Melisende de Gournay (-after 1282). “Richard de Ewias son of John de Ewias” granted certain rents in Foy to “Juliana de Tregoz widow of Robert de Tregoz” by charter dated to [1265/85][285]. "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" wrote to "son frère St Thomas de Cantlow, Euesque…de Hereford" and names her son "John Tresgoos" married "la reyne Blanch" [widow of Louis VIII King of France, such a second marriage being impossible chronologically] and had "un fils…Hugh…nostre ayle", who married "la soer le count Renaud de Boloyng", whose daughter "Milsent nostre mere" married "a Count de Euoyse en Normandy" by whom she had one son and one daughter, before marrying "Will de Cantelow nostre pere"[286]. Robert [II] & his wife had two children:
i) JOHN de Tresgoz (-before 6 Sep 1300). "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" wrote to "son frère St Thomas de Cantlow, Euesque…de Hereford" and names her son "John Tresgoos" married "la reyne Blanch" [widow of Louis VIII King of France, such a second marriage being impossible chronologically] and had "un fils…Hugh…nostre ayle", who married "la soer le count Renaud de Boloyng", whose daughter "Milsent nostre mere" married "a Count de Euoyse en Normandy" by whom she had one son and one daughter, before marrying "Will de Cantelow nostre pere"[287]. He was summoned to parliament in 1297 whereby he is held to have become Lord Tresgoz. A writ dated 6 Sep "28 Edw I", after the death of "John Tregoz alias de Tregoz", names "John la Warre his grandson (nepos) […aged 24, son of Clarice la Warre his eldest daughter who is dead…married to Roger la War] and Sibyl the wife of William de Grauntcoun (alias de Grandissono) his […younger] daughter […aged 30 and more] both aged 21 and more are his next heirs"[288]. m firstly as her second husband, MABEL, widow of WILLIAM de Crèvecœur, daughter of FULK [IV] FitzWarin & his [first/second] wife [--- de Clifford/Constance de Tosny] (-before 24 May 1297). "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" records that her son "John Tresgoos" married "Mabill file a noble…chevalier Foulk Fitz-Warren qui avoit a feme le soer Sr Rog de Clifford"[289]. It is suggested that the last reference to Mabel’s mother as a member of the Clifford family represents an error. If it is correct, John de Tresgoz and his wife would have been very closely related, presumably first cousins, as Roger [II] de Clifford and John de Tresgoz’s father were uterine brothers. From a chronological point of view, it is likely that Mabel was the daughter of Fulk FitzWarin [IV], whose recorded wife was Constance de Tosny, although it is possible that she was born from an otherwise unrecorded earlier marriage to a member of the Clifford family. A writ dated 24 May "25 Edw I", after the death of "Mabel late the wife of John Tregoz", records in relation to Weston that it was "held in free marriage of the barony of Averenchis…[by] Maud daughter of and heir of William de Averenchis the elder…Hamo le Creveker married her and they gave the manor to William their son and heir in free marriage with the said Mabel. This William died without heir of his body", names as heirs of "[the said Maud] Juliana daughter of John son of Agnes one of the daughters of the said Hamo and Maud aged 23 and more, John de Lenham son of Iseut the second of the daughters of the said Hamo and Maud aged 60 and more"[290]. m secondly as her first husband, JOAN de Cokefield, daughter of ADAM de Cokefield of Feltwell, Norfolk and Moulton, Suffolk & his wife Joan --- (-before 7 Apr 1354). She married secondly (before 28 Feb 1301) Laurence de Hameldene, and thirdly ([1313/14] or before) William de Beauchamp. John & his first wife had two children:
(a) CLARISSA de Tresgoz (-[Apr 1289/6 Sep 1300]). "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" names "Clarissa" as the elder daughter of "John Tresgoos" and his wife, adding that she married "Sr Roger la Ware"[291]. A writ dated 6 Sep "28 Edw I", after the death of "John Tregoz alias de Tregoz", names "John la Warre his grandson (nepos) […aged 24, son of Clarice la Warre his eldest daughter who is dead…married to Roger la War] and Sibyl the wife of William de Grauntcoun (alias de Grandissono) his […younger] daughter […aged 30 and more] both aged 21 and more are his next heirs"[292]. m (Sep 1276 or before) ROGER la Warre, son of JOHN la Warre & his wife Olimpia de Fokington (-20 Jun 1320). He was summoned to parliament in 1299 whereby he is held to have become Lord La Warre.
(b) SIBYLLA de Tresgoz ([before 1270]-21 Oct 1334, bur Dore Abbey). "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" names "Sibill" as the second daughter of "John Tresgoos" and his wife, adding that she married "Sr Will de Grantson chivaller de Burgon"[293]. A writ dated 6 Sep "28 Edw I", after the death of "John Tregoz alias de Tregoz", names "John la Warre his grandson (nepos) […aged 24, son of Clarice la Warre his eldest daughter who is dead…married to Roger la War] and Sibyl the wife of William de Grauntcoun (alias de Grandissono) his […younger] daughter […aged 30 and more] both aged 21 and more are his next heirs"[294]. m ([1285]) as his second wife, GUILLAUME de Grandson, son of PIERRE Seigneur de Grandson & his wife Agnes de Neuchâtel (-27 Jun 1335). He was summoned to the English parliament from 1299 whereby he is held to have become Lord Grandson [Grandison][295].
ii) --- de Tresgoz . His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated to [1265/1300] under which [his son] “John Tregoz” donated “a certain road leading from my garden, which I had from John Tregoz my uncle, to the Street which is called Vriogis-strete” to Ewias Priory[296]. m ---. One child:
(a) JOHN Tregoz . “John Tregoz” donated “a certain road leading from my garden, which I had from John Tregoz my uncle, to the Street which is called Vriogis-strete” to Ewias Priory by charter dated to [1265/1300.
[Source: Medieval Lands, ROBERT [II] de Tresgoz", retrtieved 27 November 2018, dvmansur; see link in Sources.]
** from Complete Peerage (GEC) v 12 pt 2 pp 18+
Tregoz. Robert de Tregoz, son and heir, was closely associated with Henry III; and for many years, 1226-41, received L20 p.a. "to keep him in the royal service." He had a protection to go to Brittany, Apr. 1230, and was in Gascony, 1242-43, and again in 1253-54; a Commissiner to view royal castles in Witls, 1241; was granted quittance of common summons in Hants, 1256 and 1262, Notts, 1257, Northants, 1262, and Wilts and Somerset, 1267; was ordered to aid the Earl of Hereford to protect the Marches, 1257; and was summoned for service in Wales, 1258, 1260, 1263 and 1264. In Oct 1261 he was among the trusted tenants whom the King, faced with the opposition of Simon de Montfort, called to London. He confirmed the foundation of a house of regular canons at Albury, in Send, Surrey, and was patron of the priory on the isle of Steepholm, in the Bristol Channel.
He married, presumably before 1 Aug 1245, Juliane, duaghter of William de Cauntelo (d. 1251), by Milicent, widow of Amauri (de Montfort), Count of Evreux, daughter of Hugh de Gurnay (Gornai). Robert died shortly before 24 Sep 1268. Juliane was living on 6 Aug 1285.
=== V M Norr: Some Early English Pedigrees ===
V M Norr: Some Early English Pedigrees P 113
=== A24871-4 B 22 Topographer and Genealogis ===
A24871-4 B 22 Topographer and Genealogist 2:125-126
Preferred Parents:
Father: Robert Tregoz Sheriff of Wiltshire, b. 1165 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England d. 29 APR 1215 in Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England
Mother: Sybil de Ewyas, b. 1178 in Herefordshire, England d. 1 JUL 1236 in Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England
Family 1: Juliana de Cantilupe, b. 1219 in Buckinghamshire, England d. 6 AUG 1285 in Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England
- John De Tregoz II, b. 1241 in Ewyas-Harold, Herefordshire, England d. 21 AUG 1300 in Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
- Lucy de Tregoz, b. ABT 1210 d. 1294
- John de Tregoz, b. ABT 1235 d. 21 AUG 1300
Sources:
- Title: Robert de Tresgoz II in Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Author: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/engunttz.htm#_Toc51670245
Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/engunttz.htm#_Toc51670245;
Note: ROBERT [II] de Tresgoz (-before 24 Sep 1268). The Fine Rolls record the homage of “Robti Tresgoz fil et hered Sybil de Ewyas” 1 Jul 1236[178]. “Robert Tregoz the younger” donated “the whole fosse which is between the land which belonged to Walter de Welynton and the water which is called Duneleis” to Ewias Priory by charter dated to [1235/65] witnessed by “William my brother...”[179]. m (before 1 Aug 1245) JULIANE de Cauntelo, daughter of WILLIAM de Cauntelo & his wife Melisende de Gournay (-after 1282). “Richard de Ewias son of John de Ewias” granted certain rents in Foy to “Juliana de Tregoz widow of Robert de Tregoz” by charter dated to [1265/85][180]. "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" wrote to "son frère St Thomas de Cantlow, Euesque…de Hereford" and names her son "John Tresgoos" married "la reyne Blanch" [widow of Louis VIII King of France, such a second marriage being impossible chronologically] and had "un fils…Hugh…nostre ayle", who married "la soer le count Renaud de Boloyng", whose daughter "Milsent nostre mere" married "a Count de Euoyse en Normandy" by whom she had one son and one daughter, before marrying "Will de Cantelow nostre pere"[181]. Robert [II] & his wife had two children:
- Title: Robert de Tregoz, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVKR-JVXM : 3 June 2020), Robert de Tregoz, 1265; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVKR-JVXM;
- Title: The Medieval Lands Project, "ROBERT [II] de Tresgoz"
Author: fmg.ac
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3T-Z.htm#RobertTresgozMJulianeCauntelo;
Note: ROBERT [II] de Tresgoz (-before 24 Sep 1268). The Fine Rolls record the homage of “Robti Tresgoz fil et hered Sybil de Ewyas” 1 Jul 1236[283]. “Robert Tregoz the younger” donated “the whole fosse which is between the land which belonged to Walter de Welynton and the water which is called Duneleis” to Ewias Priory by charter dated to [1235/65] witnessed by “William my brother...”[284]. m (before 1 Aug 1245) JULIANE de Cauntelo, daughter of WILLIAM de Cauntelo & his wife Melisende de Gournay (-after 1282). “Richard de Ewias son of John de Ewias” granted certain rents in Foy to “Juliana de Tregoz widow of Robert de Tregoz” by charter dated to [1265/85][285]. "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" wrote to "son frère St Thomas de Cantlow, Euesque…de Hereford" and names her son "John Tresgoos" married "la reyne Blanch" [widow of Louis VIII King of France, such a second marriage being impossible chronologically] and had "un fils…Hugh…nostre ayle", who married "la soer le count Renaud de Boloyng", whose daughter "Milsent nostre mere" married "a Count de Euoyse en Normandy" by whom she had one son and one daughter, before marrying "Will de Cantelow nostre pere"[286]. Robert [II] & his wife had two children:
i) JOHN de Tresgoz (-before 6 Sep 1300). "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" wrote to "son frère St Thomas de Cantlow, Euesque…de Hereford" and names her son "John Tresgoos" married "la reyne Blanch" [widow of Louis VIII King of France, such a second marriage being impossible chronologically] and had "un fils…Hugh…nostre ayle", who married "la soer le count Renaud de Boloyng", whose daughter "Milsent nostre mere" married "a Count de Euoyse en Normandy" by whom she had one son and one daughter, before marrying "Will de Cantelow nostre pere"[287]. He was summoned to parliament in 1297 whereby he is held to have become Lord Tresgoz. A writ dated 6 Sep "28 Edw I", after the death of "John Tregoz alias de Tregoz", names "John la Warre his grandson (nepos) […aged 24, son of Clarice la Warre his eldest daughter who is dead…married to Roger la War] and Sibyl the wife of William de Grauntcoun (alias de Grandissono) his […younger] daughter […aged 30 and more] both aged 21 and more are his next heirs"[288]. m firstly as her second husband, MABEL, widow of WILLIAM de Crèvecœur, daughter of FULK [IV] FitzWarin & his [first/second] wife [--- de Clifford/Constance de Tosny] (-before 24 May 1297). "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" records that her son "John Tresgoos" married "Mabill file a noble…chevalier Foulk Fitz-Warren qui avoit a feme le soer Sr Rog de Clifford"[289]. It is suggested that the last reference to Mabel’s mother as a member of the Clifford family represents an error. If it is correct, John de Tresgoz and his wife would have been very closely related, presumably first cousins, as Roger [II] de Clifford and John de Tresgoz’s father were uterine brothers. From a chronological point of view, it is likely that Mabel was the daughter of Fulk FitzWarin [IV], whose recorded wife was Constance de Tosny, although it is possible that she was born from an otherwise unrecorded earlier marriage to a member of the Clifford family. A writ dated 24 May "25 Edw I", after the death of "Mabel late the wife of John Tregoz", records in relation to Weston that it was "held in free marriage of the barony of Averenchis…[by] Maud daughter of and heir of William de Averenchis the elder…Hamo le Creveker married her and they gave the manor to William their son and heir in free marriage with the said Mabel. This William died without heir of his body", names as heirs of "[the said Maud] Juliana daughter of John son of Agnes one of the daughters of the said Hamo and Maud aged 23 and more, John de Lenham son of Iseut the second of the daughters of the said Hamo and Maud aged 60 and more"[290]. m secondly as her first husband, JOAN de Cokefield, daughter of ADAM de Cokefield of Feltwell, Norfolk and Moulton, Suffolk & his wife Joan --- (-before 7 Apr 1354). She married secondly (before 28 Feb 1301) Laurence de Hameldene, and thirdly ([1313/14] or before) William de Beauchamp. John & his first wife had two children:
(a) CLARISSA de Tresgoz (-[Apr 1289/6 Sep 1300]). "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" names "Clarissa" as the elder daughter of "John Tresgoos" and his wife, adding that she married "Sr Roger la Ware"[291]. A writ dated 6 Sep "28 Edw I", after the death of "John Tregoz alias de Tregoz", names "John la Warre his grandson (nepos) […aged 24, son of Clarice la Warre his eldest daughter who is dead…married to Roger la War] and Sibyl the wife of William de Grauntcoun (alias de Grandissono) his […younger] daughter […aged 30 and more] both aged 21 and more are his next heirs"[292]. m (Sep 1276 or before) ROGER la Warre, son of JOHN la Warre & his wife Olimpia de Fokington (-20 Jun 1320). He was summoned to parliament in 1299 whereby he is held to have become Lord La Warre.
(b) SIBYLLA de Tresgoz ([before 1270]-21 Oct 1334, bur Dore Abbey). "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" names "Sibill" as the second daughter of "John Tresgoos" and his wife, adding that she married "Sr Will de Grantson chivaller de Burgon"[293]. A writ dated 6 Sep "28 Edw I", after the death of "John Tregoz alias de Tregoz", names "John la Warre his grandson (nepos) […aged 24, son of Clarice la Warre his eldest daughter who is dead…married to Roger la War] and Sibyl the wife of William de Grauntcoun (alias de Grandissono) his […younger] daughter […aged 30 and more] both aged 21 and more are his next heirs"[294]. m ([1285]) as his second wife, GUILLAUME de Grandson, son of PIERRE Seigneur de Grandson & his wife Agnes de Neuchâtel (-27 Jun 1335). He was summoned to the English parliament from 1299 whereby he is held to have become Lord Grandson [Grandison][295].
ii) --- de Tresgoz . His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated to [1265/1300] under which [his son] “John Tregoz” donated “a certain road leading from my garden, which I had from John Tregoz my uncle, to the Street which is called Vriogis-strete” to Ewias Priory[296]. m ---. One child:
(a) JOHN Tregoz . “John Tregoz” donated “a certain road leading from my garden, which I had from John Tregoz my uncle, to the Street which is called Vriogis-strete” to Ewias Priory by charter dated to [1265/1300
- Title: Topographer and Genealogist 2:128-131
Author: Topographer and Genealogist 2:128-131 .
Page: Family Records
- Title: Book - Geneaological & Heraldric History of Peerage
- Title: Ancestry Family Trees
Author: Ancestry Family Tree
- Title: Book - Synopsis of Peerage of England (Tregoz)
- Title: Robert de Tregoz, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVKR-JVXM : 3 June 2020), Robert de Tregoz, 1265; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVKR-JVXM;
Note: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/57656011/robert-de_tregoz
Robert de Tregoz
BIRTH 1190 Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire Unitary Authority, Herefordshire, England
DEATH 4 Aug 1265 (aged 74–75) Evesham, Wychavon District, Worcestershire, England
BURIAL St Mary Churchyard
Little Dunmow, Uttlesford District, Essex, England
MEMORIAL ID 57656011
Robert de Tregoz, son and heir of Robert de Tregoz. Robert married, sometime before 1 Aug 1245, Juliane, the daughter of William de Cantelo, by Milicent.
- Title: Book - Transactions of Shropshire Archaeological & Natural History Society
- Title: Book - Topographer & Geneologist Vol 2
- Title: Topographer & Genealogist 2:130-132
Author: Topographer & Genealogist 2:130-132 .
Page: Family Records
- Title: Robert de Tregoz (1200-1268), Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors
Author: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p224.htm#i6725 index to pedigrees
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p224.htm#i6725;
Note: Sir Robert II de Tregoz [1,2,3]
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
M, #6725, b. circa 1200, d. before 24 September 1268
Father Sir Robert I de Tregoz, Sheriff of Wiltshire, Bailiff of Cotentin, Keeper of Salisbury & Clarendon Castles, Warden of Gavray, Neaufle, & Similly Castles [4] b. c 1168, d. c 4 Jun 1214
Mother Sibyl de Ewyas [4] b. c 1165, d. c 1 Jul 1236
Sir Robert II de Tregoz was born circa 1200 at of Ewyas Harold & Eaton in Foy, Hertfordshire, England. [3] He married Juliane de Cantelowe, daughter of Sir William de Cantelowe, Sheriff of Nottinghamshire & Derbyshire, Constable of Nottingham Castle and Milicent de Gournay, before 1 August 1245; They had 1 son (Sir John, Lord Tregoz) & allegedly 1 daughter (Lucy, wife of John le Strange). [2,3] Sir Robert II de Tregoz died before 24 September 1268 at of Allington, Lydiard Tregoze, & Tytherton Lucas, Wiltshire, England. [3]
Family: Juliane de Cantelowe b. c 1219, d. a 6 Aug 1285
Children:
Sir John de Tregoz, Lord of Tregoz & Ewyas Harold+ [3] b. c 1242, d. 21 Aug 1300
Robert Tregoz b. c 1246
Citations:
1. [S1780] Unknown author, Some Early English Pedigrees, by Vernon M. Norr, p. 113; The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. XII/2, p. 19/20.
2. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 81.
3. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 184-185.
4. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 182-183.
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