Nesta verch Osborn

• Preferred Name: Nesta verch Osborn^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]}
  
• Gender: F
  
• Birth: ABT 1079 in Hereford, Herefordshire, England, United Kingdom at LATI: N2.0223 LONG: E2.8141
  
• Burial: AFT 4 JAN 1163 in Wales at LATI: N2.3302 LONG: E3.7664 with note: adding standard St John Priory, Brecheiniog, Wales
  
• Death: 4 JAN 1163 in Wales, United Kingdom at LATI: N2.3302 LONG: E3.7664 with note: Aberthonwy, Breconshire, Wales
  
• Christening: ABT 1079 with note: Date alternate birth date
  
• NFS ID: with note: Description: L7VM-GP9 NFS
  
• FSID: LVV3-7SJ
  
• NFS ID: with note: Description: LHTX-4PD NFS
  
• Notes:

  BIO
  BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3D-K.htm#HughFitzOsberndiedbefore1140A as of 7/7/2016
  
  NESTA [Agnes] . A manuscript narrating the history of Brecknock priory records
  
  === Source: Frederick Lewis Weis & Walter Le ===
  Source: Frederick Lewis Weis & Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., Ancestral Roots of certain American colonists..., (Edition 7, Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, 1992), 177-3.
  
  === M E Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees P 18, ===
  M E Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees P 18, 22
  
  Nest Ferch Osbern
  d/o Osborn FitzRichard, of Richard's Castle & Nesta ferch Gruffydd
  b- Wales
  m- Bernard Neufmarch, Lord of Brecon
  
  === !#21-v6-p453; #240-v4-p46; !Arch Rec: Di ===
  !#21-v6-p453; #240-v4-p46; !Arch Rec: Dictionary of National Biography; Royal Lines of Succession; Monm 1 v1-pt2-p149 v3-pt2-p187; (birth 1065/1079 of Herefordshire); !ORD: Arch Rec> under Nest ap Trahaiarn, B: 27 Jan 1967, E: 12 May 1967, SP: 9 Feb 1968 SL (wrong parents); !ERROR: #21-v2-p453> dau of Gruffudd ap Llywelyn, Prince of Wales; FN #8PVD17;
  
  === !Diary and autobiography of Edmund Bohun ===
  !Diary and autobiography of Edmund Bohun, 1853 Royal Genealogies of Magna Carte Barons
  
  === Weis. 177-3. ===
  Weis. 177-3.
  
  === Agnes FitzRichard ===
  Agnes FitzRichard
  Also Known As:
  "de Neufmarché"
  Birthdate:
  1079 (84)
  Birthplace:
  Eardisley, Herefordshire, England
  Death:
  January 4, 1163 (84)
  Breconshire, , Wales
  Immediate Family:
  Daughter of Osbern Fitz Richard, 2nd Baron of Burford and Nest ferch Gruffydd
  Wife of Bernard de Neufmarche, Lord of Brecon
  Mother of Sybil de Neufmarché; Mahel de Neufmarché; Adam de Neufmarché; Ivo de Neufmarché and William de Neufmarché
  Sister of Sir Simon le Scrope; Walter le Scrope; Hugh Fitz Osbern, 3d baron of Burford and Turstin Fitz Osbern
  
  Update June 24 2018: Changed name from Nest verch Osbern to Agnes FitzRichard. According to "The Normans in South Wales, 1070-1171" it says "It may be well to clear up some misconceptions concerning the identity of Bernard's wife. The Duchess of Cleveland (The Battle Abbey Roll: with some account of the Norman Lineages, II, 352-353) states that Bernard had two wives, the latter being Nest, daughter of Llewlyn ap Gruffydd." However, other researchers refuted this, and concluded that his only wife was Agnes, daughter of Osbern and Nest, making Nest his mother-in-law, not his wife.
  
  === [Greene.FTW] [INDIV2.DAT] Source: LDS ===
  [Greene.FTW] [INDIV2.DAT] Source: LDS Ancestral File; Bogert, Theodore. AOL user "TedLBJ" File uploaded to American Online "Bogert (New England)" designation-anc0629.ged on Jul 1, 1993.;Buell001.zip; [kinfolk2.GED]; Susan Shannon, Susanorl@@sundial.net;http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/n/ a/susan-h-shannon/
  
  === !Ancestral Roots of Certain American Col ===
  !Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700. by Frederick Lewis Weis. Seventh Edition. Page 152
  
  === Background information concerning Nesta, wife of Bernard de Neufmarche (Newmarch) ===
  There appears to be considerable confusion in various records, particularly private records, concerning the true identity of Nesta, wife of Bernard de Neufmarche. The Battle Abbey Roll reports that Nesta, wife of Bernard de Neufmarche, is the daughter of Griffin (Gruffydd) ap Llewelyn, King of Gwynedd and Powys) [Wales](see copy in Memories section). Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages appears to agree, reporting Nesta is the daughter of Gruffydd ap Llewelyn (see copy in the Memories section). The Annuals and Antiquities also reports Nesta is the daughter of Gruffydd ap Llewelyn (see copy in the Memories section). However, other records, particularly British History Online: Wales: Brecknockshire, (see copy in the Memories section) reports Nesta is the granddaughter of Gruffydd ab Llewelyn. Some entries in Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia, report Nesta, wife of Bernard de Neufmarche, is both the daughter and granddaughter of Gruffydd ab Llewelyn (see examples in the Memories section).
  
  The confusion seems to stem from the fact there were two woman named Nesta of the time frame, mother and daughter. Nesta's mother is also named Nesta and is most likely the Nesta who is the daughter of Gruffydd ab Llewelyn. The mother Nesta first married Trahaearn ap Caradog and they reportedly had seven children. She married secondly Osbern FitzRichard and they had a daughter named Nesta, who is the Nesta married to Bernard de Neufmarche and is thus a granddaughter of Gruffydd ab Llewelyn.
  
  Comparing estimated dates of birth and known dates of historical events, Nesta, the wife of Bernard de Neufmarche, is too young to be the daughter of Gruffydd ab Llewelyn, who reportedly died in 1063 before the Conquest of England by William the Conqueror, and must, therefore, be the granddaughter although many records (noted above) report she is the daughter of Gruffydd ab Llewelyn.
  
  === She was a licentious woman and her son M ===
  She was a licentious woman and her son Mabel, having offended one of her paramours, was disowned by his Mother.
  
  === [Kraentzler, op.cit., p.134, gives her f ===
  [Kraentzler, op.cit., p.134, gives her father as Trahearn of Arnystle, King of Gwyness and Powys, and her mother as Nest verch Gruffydd.] She is called Agnes by the Anglo-Normans.
  
  === Information recieved from John Luddy Bur ===
  Information recieved from John Luddy Burke Jr.
  
  === Sources: Antiquities of Shropshire, Vol. ===
  Sources: Antiquities of Shropshire, Vol. 4; Coe, Norr, A. Roots 177; Kraentzler 1312; Ayers, p624, 673; AF. Roots: Nesta, daughter of Nesta of North Wales and Osborn (or Osbert)Fitz Richard. Norr: Nesta alias Agnes. Antiquities: Nesta, alias Agnes, daughter of Nesta, daughter ofGruffyth ap Llewelyn, Prince of Wales. K: Nest verch Trahearn of Hereford, England, daughter of Trahearn of Arnystile, King of Gynedd and Powys, and his wife Nest verch Gruffydd. Ayers lists two possible fathers for Nesta: Osbern Fitz Richard orTrahaiarn ap Cardoc, saying the problem has not been settled. Will go withAncestral Roots.
  
  === !#21> Complete Peerage-v6-p453(h), (FHL ===
  !#21> Complete Peerage-v6-p453(h), (FHL 942 D22cok); !AF: BAPT-END-SP> AFN:8PVD17; !ASSUMPTION: she is stated to have sworn that her son Mahel was not the son of her husband Bernard de NEUFMARCHE - therefore Mahel must have been born while she was marr to Bernard de NEUFMARCHE;
  
  === !Nesta, m. Bernard de Neufmarche, d. 109 ===
  !Nesta, m. Bernard de Neufmarche, d. 1093, Lord of Becon, son of Geoffrey (son of Thurcytel) by Ada, dau. of Richard de Hugelville, and grandchild of Richard "the Good", by hid dau. Papia. Ref: (CP I 22; VI 452-453).
  BIO
  BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3D-K.htm#HughFitzOsberndiedbefore1140A as of 7/7/2016
  
  NESTA [Agnes] . A manuscript narrating the history of Brecknock priory records
  
  === !Ancestral Roots of Certain American Col ===
  !Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700. by Frederick Lewis Weis. Seventh Edition. Page 152
  
  === Weis. 177-3. ===
  Weis. 177-3.
  
  === She was a licentious woman and her son M ===
  She was a licentious woman and her son Mabel, having offended one of her paramours, was disowned by his Mother.
  
  === !Nesta, m. Bernard de Neufmarche, d. 109 ===
  !Nesta, m. Bernard de Neufmarche, d. 1093, Lord of Becon, son of Geoffrey (son of Thurcytel) by Ada, dau. of Richard de Hugelville, and grandchild of Richard "the Good", by hid dau. Papia. Ref: (CP I 22; VI 452-453).
  
  === !#21-v6-p453; #240-v4-p46; !Arch Rec: Di ===
  !#21-v6-p453; #240-v4-p46; !Arch Rec: Dictionary of National Biography; Royal Lines of Succession; Monm 1 v1-pt2-p149 v3-pt2-p187; (birth 1065/1079 of Herefordshire); !ORD: Arch Rec> under Nest ap Trahaiarn, B: 27 Jan 1967, E: 12 May 1967, SP: 9 Feb 1968 SL (wrong parents); !ERROR: #21-v2-p453> dau of Gruffudd ap Llywelyn, Prince of Wales; FN #8PVD17;
  
  Nest Ferch Osbern
  d/o Osborn FitzRichard, of Richard's Castle & Nesta ferch Gruffydd
  b- Wales
  m- Bernard Neufmarch, Lord of Brecon
  
  === !#21> Complete Peerage-v6-p453(h), (FHL ===
  !#21> Complete Peerage-v6-p453(h), (FHL 942 D22cok); !AF: BAPT-END-SP> AFN:8PVD17; !ASSUMPTION: she is stated to have sworn that her son Mahel was not the son of her husband Bernard de NEUFMARCHE - therefore Mahel must have been born while she was marr to Bernard de NEUFMARCHE;
  
  === Source: Frederick Lewis Weis & Walter Le ===
  Source: Frederick Lewis Weis & Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., Ancestral Roots of certain American colonists..., (Edition 7, Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, 1992), 177-3.
  
  === Background information concerning Nesta, wife of Bernard de Neufmarche (Newmarch) ===
  There appears to be considerable confusion in various records, particularly private records, concerning the true identity of Nesta, wife of Bernard de Neufmarche. The Battle Abbey Roll reports that Nesta, wife of Bernard de Neufmarche, is the daughter of Griffin (Gruffydd) ap Llewelyn, King of Gwynedd and Powys) [Wales](see copy in Memories section). Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages appears to agree, reporting Nesta is the daughter of Gruffydd ap Llewelyn (see copy in the Memories section). The Annuals and Antiquities also reports Nesta is the daughter of Gruffydd ap Llewelyn (see copy in the Memories section). However, other records, particularly British History Online: Wales: Brecknockshire, (see copy in the Memories section) reports Nesta is the granddaughter of Gruffydd ab Llewelyn. Some entries in Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia, report Nesta, wife of Bernard de Neufmarche, is both the daughter and granddaughter of Gruffydd ab Llewelyn (see examples in the Memories section).
  
  The confusion seems to stem from the fact there were two woman named Nesta of the time frame, mother and daughter. Nesta's mother is also named Nesta and is most likely the Nesta who is the daughter of Gruffydd ab Llewelyn. The mother Nesta first married Trahaearn ap Caradog and they reportedly had seven children. She married secondly Osbern FitzRichard and they had a daughter named Nesta, who is the Nesta married to Bernard de Neufmarche and is thus a granddaughter of Gruffydd ab Llewelyn.
  
  Comparing estimated dates of birth and known dates of historical events, Nesta, the wife of Bernard de Neufmarche, is too young to be the daughter of Gruffydd ab Llewelyn, who reportedly died in 1063 before the Conquest of England by William the Conqueror, and must, therefore, be the granddaughter although many records (noted above) report she is the daughter of Gruffydd ab Llewelyn.
  
  === Sources: Antiquities of Shropshire, Vol. ===
  Sources: Antiquities of Shropshire, Vol. 4; Coe, Norr, A. Roots 177; Kraentzler 1312; Ayers, p624, 673; AF. Roots: Nesta, daughter of Nesta of North Wales and Osborn (or Osbert)Fitz Richard. Norr: Nesta alias Agnes. Antiquities: Nesta, alias Agnes, daughter of Nesta, daughter ofGruffyth ap Llewelyn, Prince of Wales. K: Nest verch Trahearn of Hereford, England, daughter of Trahearn of Arnystile, King of Gynedd and Powys, and his wife Nest verch Gruffydd. Ayers lists two possible fathers for Nesta: Osbern Fitz Richard orTrahaiarn ap Cardoc, saying the problem has not been settled. Will go withAncestral Roots.
  
  === M E Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees P 18, ===
  M E Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees P 18, 22
  
  === !Diary and autobiography of Edmund Bohun ===
  !Diary and autobiography of Edmund Bohun, 1853 Royal Genealogies of Magna Carte Barons
  
  === Agnes FitzRichard ===
  Agnes FitzRichard
  Also Known As:
  "de Neufmarché"
  Birthdate:
  1079 (84)
  Birthplace:
  Eardisley, Herefordshire, England
  Death:
  January 4, 1163 (84)
  Breconshire, , Wales
  Immediate Family:
  Daughter of Osbern Fitz Richard, 2nd Baron of Burford and Nest ferch Gruffydd
  Wife of Bernard de Neufmarche, Lord of Brecon
  Mother of Sybil de Neufmarché; Mahel de Neufmarché; Adam de Neufmarché; Ivo de Neufmarché and William de Neufmarché
  Sister of Sir Simon le Scrope; Walter le Scrope; Hugh Fitz Osbern, 3d baron of Burford and Turstin Fitz Osbern
  
  Update June 24 2018: Changed name from Nest verch Osbern to Agnes FitzRichard. According to "The Normans in South Wales, 1070–1171" it says "It may be well to clear up some misconceptions concerning the identity of Bernard's wife. The Duchess of Cleveland (The Battle Abbey Roll: with some account of the Norman Lineages, II, 352-353) states that Bernard had two wives, the latter being Nest, daughter of Llewlyn ap Gruffydd." However, other researchers refuted this, and concluded that his only wife was Agnes, daughter of Osbern and Nest, making Nest his mother-in-law, not his wife.
  
  === Information recieved from John Luddy Bur ===
  Information recieved from John Luddy Burke Jr.
  
  === [Kraentzler, op.cit., p.134, gives her f ===
  [Kraentzler, op.cit., p.134, gives her father as Trahearn of Arnystle, King of Gwyness and Powys, and her mother as Nest verch Gruffydd.] She is called Agnes by the Anglo-Normans.
  
  === [Greene.FTW] [INDIV2.DAT] Source: LDS ===
  [Greene.FTW] [INDIV2.DAT] Source: LDS Ancestral File; Bogert, Theodore. AOL user "TedLBJ" File uploaded to American Online "Bogert (New England)" designation-anc0629.ged on Jul 1, 1993.;Buell001.zip; [kinfolk2.GED]; Susan Shannon, Susanorl@sundial.net;http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/n/ a/susan-h-shannon/

1. Sybil de Neufmarché of Gloucester , b. 1093 in Aberhonwy, Breconshire, Wales     d. 1143 in Bur Llanthony Priory, Gloucestershire, England

• m. 1098 in Brecon, Powys, Wales
• m. 1091 in Brecon, Powys, Wales

1. Sybil de Neufmarche, b. ABT 1099 in Brecon Castle, Breconshire, Wales     d. 24 DEC 1143 in Gloucestershire, England
2. Adam de Neufmarché, b. ABT 1100 in Bentley, Yorkshire, England     d. 1160 in Whatton, Nottinghamshire, England

1. Title: "Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales, vol. 1"
   Author: "Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales, vol. 1," pg. 86 pg. 86 [See document in the Memories section]
   Note: Berhard de Neufmarche from Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales, vol. 1, pg. 86 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Berhard de Neufmarche from Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales, vol. 1, pg. 86 [See document in the Memories section]
   
2. Title: Nesta verch Osbern and Bernard de Neufmarche from Wikipedia [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Nesta verch Osbern and Bernard de Neufmarche from Wikipedia
   Note: Nesta verch Osbern and Bernard de Neufmarche from Wikipedia [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Nesta verch Osbern and Bernard de Neufmarche from Wikipedia [See document in the Memories section]
   
3. Title: Pedigree of Bernard de Neufmarche in the Antiquities of Shropshire, Vol. 4, pg. 184 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Antiquities of Shropshire, Vol. 4, pg. 184
   Note: Pedigree of Bernard de Neufmarche in the Antiquities of Shropshire, Vol. 4, pg. 184 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Pedigree of Bernard de Neufmarche in the Antiquities of Shropshire, Vol. 4, pg. 184 [See document in the Memories section]
   
4. Title: Bernard de Neufmarche and Nesta from the Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 2, pg. 352 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 2, pg. 352
   Note: Bernard de Neufmarche and Nesta from the Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 2, pg. 352 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Nesta verch Osbern and Bernard de Neufmarche from Wikipedia [See document in the Memories section]
   
5. Title: "The Normans in South Wales, 1070–1171," by Lynn H. Nelson
   Author: Nelson, Lynn H. "The Normans in South Wales, 1070–1171." University of Texas Press, 2014.
   
6. Title: Bernard de Neufmarche in the Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales, vol. 1, pg. 65-69 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales, vol. 1, pg. 65-69
   Note: Bernard de Neufmarche in the Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales, vol. 1, pg. 65-69 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Bernard de Neufmarche in the Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales, vol. 1, pg. 65-69 [See document in the Memories section]
   
7. Title: Bernard de Neufmarche from Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extrinct Peerages, page 401 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extrinct Peerages, page 401
   Note: Bernard de Neufmarche from Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extrinct Peerages, page 401 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Bernard de Neufmarche and Nesta from British History Online, Wales, Brecknockshire, pgs 92-125 [See document in the Memories section]
   
8. Title: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/175277699/nesta-ferch_osborn
   Publication: Name: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/175277699/nesta-ferch_osborn;
   
9. Title: Geni: Nesta, of Hereford
   Author: Added by: "Skip" Bremer on June 10, 2007 Managed by: Margaret (C) and 147 others Curated by: Pam Wilson (may be slow to respond)
   Publication: Name: https://www.geni.com/people/Nesta-of-Hereford/6000000002134850430;
   Note: Nest ferch Osbern Gender: Female Birth: 1079 Eardisley, Herefordshire, England Death: January 04, 1163 (83-84) Breconshire, , Wales Immediate Family: Daughter of Osbern Fitz Richard, 2nd Baron of Burford and Nest ferch Gruffydd Wife of Bernard de Neufmarche, Lord of Brecon Mother of Sybil de Neufmarché; Mahel de Neufmarché; William de Neufmarché and Ivo de Neufmarché Sister of Walter le Scrope; Hugh Fitz Osbern, 3d Baron of Burford; Turstin Fitz Osbern and Sir Simon le Scrope Abouthistory Please see Darrell Wolcott: The Consorts and Children of Gruffudd ap Llewelyn; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id210.html. (Steven Ferry, July 22, 2020.) ------------------------------------- Nesta of Hereford married Bernard de Neufmarché , Lord of Brecknock, son of Geoffrey de Neufmarché and Ada of Hugleville, before 1104. -------------------- Nesta ferch Gruffydd (born c.1062), married Osbern FitzRichard of Richard's Castle, Shropshire, son of Richard Fitz Scrope, by whom she had issue, including a son, Hugh FitzOsbern who married Eustache de Say, and a daughter Nesta (Agnes) ferch Osbern, who, sometime before 1099, married Bernard de Neufmarche, Lord of Brecon. The Barons de Braose of Abergavenny descend from Sybil of Neufmarche, the daughter of Bernard and Nesta (Agnes), whose own daughter, Bertha of Hereford married William de Braose, Third Lord of Bramber. -------------------- See "My Lines" ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p58.htm#i7141 ) from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm ) Aka: Nesta fil Trahern, Nest verch Trahearn, Nesta of Hereford, Nesta ap Griffith. Nest Verch Osborn was born c. 1079 to Osbern Fitzrichard and Nest Verch Gruffydd. Nest married Bernard De Neufmarche and had a child: Sybil (Sybile) De Neufmarche. Nest Verch Osborn De Neufmarche is my 30th great grandmother. according to wiki: She had 7 children (not named) http://opendomesday.org/place/SO3149/eardisley/ Immediate Family Showing 11 people Bernard de Neufmarche, Lord of B... husband Sybil de Neufmarché daughter Mahel de Neufmarché son William de Neufmarché son Ivo de Neufmarché son Osbern Fitz Richard, 2nd Baron o... father Nest ferch Gruffydd mother Walter le Scrope brother Hugh Fitz Osbern, 3d Baron of Bu... brother Turstin Fitz Osbern brother Sir Simon le Scrope brother
   
10. Title: Bernard de Neufmarche and Nesta from British History Online, Wales, Brecknockshire, pgs 92-125 [See document in the Memories section]
    Author: British History Online, Wales, Brecknockshire, pgs 92-125
    Note: Bernard de Neufmarche and Nesta from British History Online, Wales, Brecknockshire, pgs 92-125 [See document in the Memories section]
    Page: Bernard de Neufmarche and Nesta from British History Online, Wales, Brecknockshire, pgs 92-125 [See document in the Memories section]
    
11. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Nest Verch Osborn -
    Author: Freeman, Edward A. , The Reign of William Rufus and the Accession ofHenry the First, Page number: pp. 90-91
    Note: Freeman, Edward A., "The Reign of William Rufus and the Accession ofHenry the First." 2 volumes. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1882.
    Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3246398982