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Isabel de Ros
- Preferred Name: Isabel de Ros[1] [2] [3] [4]
- Gender: F
- Death: 1309 in Kilton Castle, Cleveland, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N4.5871 LONG: E1.1385
- Birth: ABT 1269 in Ingmanthorpe, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N3.9544 LONG: E1.3568
- Burial: in Priory Guisborough, North Riding, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N4.5871 LONG: E1.1385
- FSID: LY8B-ZCK
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
Isabel de Ros
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
b. circa 1269, d. 1309
Father Sir William de Ros
b. c 1244, d. c 28 May 1310
Mother Eustache FitzHugh d. bt 1301-28 May 1310
Isabel de Ros was born circa 1269 at of Ingmanthorpe, Kirk Deighton, Yorkshire, England. She married Sir Marmaduke de Thweng, 1st Lord Thweng, son of Sir Marmaduke de Thwenge, Lord Kilton and Lucia de Brus, in 1273;
They had 6 sons (Marmaduke; William, 2nd Lord Thweng; Robert, 3rd Lord Thweng; Thomas, a cleric & 4th Lord Thweng; John, Prior of Bridlington; & Nicholas) and 3 daughters (Katherine, wife of Sir Ralph Daubeney; Margaret, wife of Robert de Hilton; & Lucy, wife of Sir Robert de Lumley).
Isabel de Ros died in 1309 at of Kilton Castle in Cleavelend, Yorkshire, England.
Family
Sir Marmaduke de Thweng, 1st Lord Thweng
b. 1256, d. c 26 Feb 1323
Children
Katherine de Thweng
d. bt 20 Apr 1364 - 28 May 1374
Marmaduke Thweng d. 11 Sep 1297
William Thweng, 2nd Lord Thweng d. c 19 Nov 1340
Robert Thweng, 3rd Lord Thweng d. 22 Apr 1344
Thomas Thweng, 4th Lord Thweng d. 28 May 1374
Margaret de Thweng
John de Thweng
Lucy de Thweng b. c 1288
===
{{British Isles 742-1499}}
==Biography==
'''Father''' Sir Robert de Roos b. c 1223, d. 17 Jun 1285
'''Mother''' Isabel d' Aubeney b. c 1233, d. 15 Jun 1301
Isabel de Roos was born circa 1256 at Igmanthorpe, Yorkshire, England.[Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 448]
She married Walter de Faucomberge, 2nd Lord Fauconberg, son of Sir Walter de Faucomberge, 1st Baron Fauconberg and Agnes de Brus, circa 1275at of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England; They had 6 sons (including Peter;Sir Walter; John, 3rd Lord Fauconberge; & William) & 4 daughters (Anice, wife of Sir Nicholas d'Engaine; Laurette, Ivette; & Joan).[Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 549]
'''Family'''
* Walter de Faucomberge, 2nd Lord Fauconberg b. c 1254, d. 31 Dec 1318
'''Children'''
* Peter
* Sir Walter
* John, 3rd Lord Fauconberge
* William
* Anice, wife of Sir Nicholas d'Engaine
* Laurette
* Ivette
* Joan
== Sources ==
* http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p366.htm#i10984* Weis, Frederick Lewis, "The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215" (Baltimore,Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1999); page 154; Line 117* Weis, Frederick Lewis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonist Who Came to New England between 1623 and 1650 : Supplement" (Dublin, New Hampshire: n.p., 1952), page 14* McCall, Hardy Bertram, editor, "Story of the Family of Wandesford ofKirklington & Castlecomer : compiled from original sources : With a Calendar of Historical Manuscripts" (London: Simpkin Marshall Hamilton Kent & Co. LTD., 1904* The Family Forest Descendants of Milesius of Spain for 84 Generations, pg 474 [https://books.google.ca/books?id=tMZNzqE_G94C&pg=PA474]
=== !Marriage place is Guisborough Priory. ===
!Marriage place is Guisborough Priory.
=== Many people have the same Isabel de Ros ===
Many people have the same Isabel de Ros married to both Marmaduke deThweng andWalter de Faucomberge. Certainly Magna Charta Sureties andAncestral Roots don'tmention that the Isabel which married Walter deFaucomberge also married anyoneelse. Plus the birth dates of thechildren of both marriages tend to be intermixed, 1290's and early1300's, leading one to question which was the firstor thesecondmarriage, and indeed whether there were two "Isabel de Ros"s, oftwodifferent parents. According to the Extinct Peerages (see notes underMarmaduke de Thweng), Marmaduke's Isabel was daughter of William ofIngmanthorpe. Sometimes the Extinct Peerages has proven unreliable, butin this case I believe that it iscorrect, where Walter's wife Isabel isdaughter of Robert de Ros as indicated byMCS & AR.
Sourced from Hollister-Bartsch Tree worldconnect.rootsweb.com
Contact hollister_family@dodo.com.au for information or corrections
=== Life Sketch ===
Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
Isabel de Ros
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
b. circa 1269, d. 1309
Father Sir William de Ros
b. c 1244, d. c 28 May 1310
Mother Eustache FitzHugh d. bt 1301-28 May 1310
Isabel de Ros was born circa 1269 at of Ingmanthorpe, Kirk Deighton, Yorkshire, England. She married Sir Marmaduke de Thweng, 1st Lord Thweng, son of Sir Marmaduke de Thwenge, Lord Kilton and Lucia de Brus, in 1273;
They had 6 sons (Marmaduke; William, 2nd Lord Thweng; Robert, 3rd Lord Thweng; Thomas, a cleric & 4th Lord Thweng; John, Prior of Bridlington; & Nicholas) and 3 daughters (Katherine, wife of Sir Ralph Daubeney; Margaret, wife of Robert de Hilton; & Lucy, wife of Sir Robert de Lumley).
Isabel de Ros died in 1309 at of Kilton Castle in Cleavelend, Yorkshire, England.
Family
Sir Marmaduke de Thweng, 1st Lord Thweng
b. 1256, d. c 26 Feb 1323
Children
Katherine de Thweng
d. bt 20 Apr 1364 - 28 May 1374
Marmaduke Thweng d. 11 Sep 1297
William Thweng, 2nd Lord Thweng d. c 19 Nov 1340
Robert Thweng, 3rd Lord Thweng d. 22 Apr 1344
Thomas Thweng, 4th Lord Thweng d. 28 May 1374
Margaret de Thweng
John de Thweng
Lucy de Thweng b. c 1288
===
{{British Isles 742-1499}}
==Biography==
'''Father''' Sir Robert de Roos b. c 1223, d. 17 Jun 1285
'''Mother''' Isabel d' Aubeney b. c 1233, d. 15 Jun 1301
Isabel de Roos was born circa 1256 at Igmanthorpe, Yorkshire, England.[Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 448]
She married Walter de Faucomberge, 2nd Lord Fauconberg, son of Sir Walter de Faucomberge, 1st Baron Fauconberg and Agnes de Brus, circa 1275at of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England; They had 6 sons (including Peter;Sir Walter; John, 3rd Lord Fauconberge; & William) & 4 daughters (Anice, wife of Sir Nicholas d'Engaine; Laurette, Ivette; & Joan).[Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 549]
'''Family'''
* Walter de Faucomberge, 2nd Lord Fauconberg b. c 1254, d. 31 Dec 1318
'''Children'''
* Peter
* Sir Walter
* John, 3rd Lord Fauconberge
* William
* Anice, wife of Sir Nicholas d'Engaine
* Laurette
* Ivette
* Joan
== Sources ==
* http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p366.htm#i10984* Weis, Frederick Lewis, "The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215" (Baltimore,Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1999); page 154; Line 117* Weis, Frederick Lewis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonist Who Came to New England between 1623 and 1650 : Supplement" (Dublin, New Hampshire: n.p., 1952), page 14* McCall, Hardy Bertram, editor, "Story of the Family of Wandesford ofKirklington & Castlecomer : compiled from original sources : With a Calendar of Historical Manuscripts" (London: Simpkin Marshall Hamilton Kent & Co. LTD., 1904* The Family Forest Descendants of Milesius of Spain for 84 Generations, pg 474 [https://books.google.ca/books?id=tMZNzqE_G94C&pg=PA474]
=== Many people have the same Isabel de Ros ===
Many people have the same Isabel de Ros married to both Marmaduke deThweng andWalter de Faucomberge. Certainly Magna Charta Sureties andAncestral Roots don'tmention that the Isabel which married Walter deFaucomberge also married anyoneelse. Plus the birth dates of thechildren of both marriages tend to be intermixed, 1290's and early1300's, leading one to question which was the firstor thesecondmarriage, and indeed whether there were two "Isabel de Ros"s, oftwodifferent parents. According to the Extinct Peerages (see notes underMarmaduke de Thweng), Marmaduke's Isabel was daughter of William ofIngmanthorpe. Sometimes the Extinct Peerages has proven unreliable, butin this case I believe that it iscorrect, where Walter's wife Isabel isdaughter of Robert de Ros as indicated byMCS & AR.
Sourced from Hollister-Bartsch Tree worldconnect.rootsweb.com
Contact hollister_family@dodo.com.au for information or corrections
=== !Marriage place is Guisborough Priory. ===
!Marriage place is Guisborough Priory.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Sir William de Ros,
Family 1: Marmaduke de Thwenge, b. 1248 in Kilton Castle, Yorkshire, England d. 23 APR 1323 in Kilton, Yorkshire, England
- m. 1273 in Yorkshire, England
- Lucy de Thwenge, b. 24 MAR 1278/79 in Kilton Castle, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom d. 8 JAN 1347 in Guisborough, Yorkshire, England
- Katherine de Thweng, b. ABT 1309 in Kilton, Yorkshire, England d. BEF 28 MAY 1374 in England
Sources:
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Isabel De Ros -
Author: Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom; GE Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, Page number: IV:97, XII/1:741
Note: Source Media Type: Book
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736741118
- Title: Marmaduke Thweng, 1st Baron Thweng - Wikipedia
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marmaduke_Thweng,_1st_Baron_Thweng;
Note: Sir Marmaduke Thweng (or Tweng, Thwinge etc.), later 1st Baron Thweng, was an English knight from Yorkshire. The son of Sir Marmaduke Thweng of Kilton and his wife Lucy de Brus. He was summoned to Parliament in 1307, thus becoming Baron Thweng. Thweng married Isabel de Ros, daughter of William de Ros of Ingmanthorpe, and had several children.
- Title: Isabel de Roos in Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
Author: Citations 1[S15] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, p. 119. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 79. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 192-193. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 669. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 28-29. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 385. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 155-156. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 191-192. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 384-385. [S11568] The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. XII/1, p. 741. [S11568] The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. XII/1, p. 742-743. [S11568] The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. XII/1, p. 743. [S11568] The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. XII/1, p. 743, notes. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 321. [S11568] The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. XII/1, p. 741, notes.
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p775.htm#i23273;
Note: Isabel de Roos (1,2,3,4,5,6,7)
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
F, #23273, b. circa 1269, d. 1309
Father Sir William de Roos (1,2,8,4,5,9,7) b. c 1244, d. c 28 May 1310
Mother Eustache FitzHugh1,8,9,7 d. bt 1301 - 28 May 1310
Isabel de Roos was born circa 1269 at of Ingmanthorpe, Kirk Deighton, Yorkshire, England.1 She married Sir Marmaduke de Thweng, 1st Lord Thweng, son of Sir Marmaduke de Thwenge, Lord Kilton and Lucia de Brus, in 1273; They had 6 sons (Marmaduke; William, 2nd Lord Thweng; Robert, 3rd Lord Thweng; Thomas, a cleric & 4th Lord Thweng; John, Prior of Bridlington; & Nicholas) and 3 daughters (Katherine, wife of Sir Ralph Daubeney; Margaret, wife of Robert de Hilton; & Lucy, wife of Sir Robert de Lumley).2,3,4,5,6,7 Isabel de Roos died in 1309 at of Kilton Castle in Cleavelend, Yorkshire, England.1,3,7
Family:
Sir Marmaduke de Thweng, 1st Lord Thweng b. 1256, d. c 26 Feb 1323
Children:
Katherine de Thweng+3,5,7 d. bt 20 Apr 1364 - 28 May 1374
Marmaduke Thweng10 d. 11 Sep 1297
William Thweng, 2nd Lord Thweng d. c 19 Nov 1340
Robert Thweng, 3rd Lord Thweng11 d. 22 Apr 1344
Thomas Thweng, 4th Lord Thweng12 d. 28 May 1374
Margaret de Thweng+13,14,7
John de Thweng+15
Lucy de Thweng+2,3,4,7 b. c 1288
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